What is the future of investment banking?
What do you guys think is the future of investment banking? Does it still make sense to be an MBA associate when tech and consulting keep on sounding more on-par?
Some things I am noticing:
- All the IPOs and corporate M&A seem to be more consolidated with MS, Goldman, Qatalyst
- IB rev down 30-50%
- It will never be what it was prior to the financial crisis
- Not many exits to investing post MBA level
- Availability of information that was prior restricted to IBs are pretty much everywhere
- Many PE firms are having their own credit/leverage finance arms
- New director-level positions that make it longer to become an MD
- Everyone from the class above that did tech west coast banking is out within a year except for the guys that went to MS
- Talent at the post-MBA level is going down. Only the most questionable people from harvard/stanford MBA are looking at banking. Feels like all the smartest kids I meet are either going to tech, consulting, or PE (prior banking) from M7
What am I missing that is making so many people still want to become bankers? Is the money going to be this good forever? I want to know what I'm missing.
I’m going to direct my response towards post MBA associates or “banking as a career” vs the alternatives. If you’re an undergrad the answer is definitively “yes, banking is still worth it”.
Generally I’d say the job is in a good spot - better than it’s been at any other point post GFC, and probably more tolerable from a work life balance standpoint than it’s ever been.
That said, it’s not for everyone. Plenty of reasons to choose consulting. Many think the work is more interesting, being focused on a single project can be less mentally taxing, the hours are better, there are a broader range of exits available, MBB has a brand name that’s probably only matched by Goldman etc.
I’m also willing to entertain an argument for Product Manager tech roles if anyone has one, but at first glance I really don’t get the appeal at all. Seems like you’re at best a cheerleader and at worst a bureaucratic roadblock for the actual revenue generators. Can’t avoid being reminded of the viral video of the girls on their laptops by the pool who couldn’t explain what they actually do.
“Seems like you're at best a cheerleader and at worst a bureaucratic roadblock for the actual revenue generators”
Wow, that is like the most accurate job description of product manager I have ever seen. Well down.
Also, it is shocking that how many college students fantasize product managers as the boss of software engineers. FYI, they are not.
Companies are always going to need financing so there will always be a need for investment bankers. Did you forget that there are a slew of Product teams within IBD? ECM, DCM, LAF, Securitization, etc... These are things which are very interesting to many people and many people in Product teams stay in banking their entire careers. It's not all M&A, modelling, or whatever bullshit WSO terrorists say
Thanks intern
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