Advice on BB Rejection
Hi everyone,
I recently interviewed for an IB analyst position at a BB in New York. I thought it went pretty well, but I didn't get an offer, and reached out to the Associates/VPs I interviewed with to thank them for their time. Several of them responded saying they were puzzled about why I didn't get an offer.
I noticed the other day that the BB reposted the position I interviewed for. When I e-mailed my HR contact, they said they would get in touch with me if they wanted to pursue my candidacy.
My question is this: would it be out of line for me to talk to the Associates who were sympathetic to me and try to get them to apply some pressure internally to hire me? is this going over the top, or just being persistant? How would I approach this?
Thanks!
Completely out of line. Are you fucking retarded?
Approach them for advice. Better than an anonymous forum.
I don't think it would be completely out of line.
Maybe ask them "Why do you think I did not get the position if you guys thought I interviewed so well?" This may peak his interest and lead him to inquire further about why you were not hired....
You will probably not get the job so you might as well try.
Thanks guys!
I'm leaning towards reaching out for "advice" and steering the convo towards "why do you think I wasn't offered a position"
Any other thoughts?
Anyone who says it is out of line is retarded. What do you think you have to lose by doing so? Obviously don't say you want them to go to bat for you, but bankers tend not to be stupid; they'll be able to read between the lines pretty easily if you reiterate your interest and let them know the position was reposted.
I agree with the above posters, just realize that the reason you did not get an offer is probably because everyone liked you but the one guy that matters...the MD.
Make sure you don't push it because if you do you'll lose favor of the associate as well. Associates will not ask the MD for you that's almost for sure, but if they really liked you they might keep you in mind for the future.
I'll freely admit to giving the old "well that's weird that you weren't hired because I liked you and everyone I talked to liked you" line to candidates who didn't get offers. A lot of the time I even mean it. Hiring is somewhat random and unfair, and lots of good candidates don't get bids. But ultimately if you aren't coming to work with me and the MD didn't put you on ice (just in case another candidate falls through) I have better things to do with my time than make you feel better about yourself. So I give the throwaway feel-good answer and move on. I'm certainly never going to get my boss to reverse a judgment of this nature, and that stack of 25 final-round resumes isn't going to ding itself.
i am sorry if am being rude, but it looks like you just didn't make it for this role, and they are still looking. Thanking for time was a nice touch, however following up more would be very inappropriete; people who have responded to you were most likely being polite... the only time it is appropriete to be quite persistent, if the interviewer loved you, couldn't hire, gave you all his contacts and openly asked you to follow up with him/her (usually comes with a specific time frame, as he knows when he would be able to hire next time in the year)
also just a point, if you didn't fail on the interview, and everything was ok, it doesn't mean that you ticked all the boxes either, so treat it as an experience and move one to the next one
I would tread really lightly here. If one or two guys reached out to you, then maybe ask them over email what went wrong, and for advice. The last thing I want is some butt-hurt college kid whining to me about why he didn't get an offer.
And honestly, its because of this that I don't give out my business card on interviews anymore. And if they really go the extra mile and figure out my last name and email me, I ignore them. Its uncomfortable for everyone. Its competitive out there, now more than ever.
Gekko21 -- I agree with you, it probably was the MD. I don't think that my interview with him went terribly, but it definitely could have been better
Barcaprules -- I think its good to ask for feedback a day or two after you get the rejection. Tell people it was nice to meet them and if they have any tips you would appreciate it.
FunkMonkey -- That definitely gives me some perspective! I guess I never thought of it from their point-of-view, but they could just be telling me what I want to hear or trying to make me feel better
NataliaR -- Good point at the end about not ticking all the boxes
Thanks everyone! Any other input would be appreciated
I think you should have coupled the thank you for your time and all that with asking for some feedback on how you could improve for next time... if you see that they quote you something that you thought you did really well on, then I would assume what people have said in the above posts, that someone high up simply didn't like you for some reason and they're giving you a reason to get you to stop asking them. Definitely don't take it to heart, view it as a learning experience and move on to the next interviews! There's plenty of fish in the sea. Good luck!
The reason you might not have gotten an offer is because the bankers were doing other shit that they care about 1000x more than recruiting analysts and they never got around to doing it. Keep yourself on their radar, stay in touch with your contacts at the banks (this is what people call networking, by the way) and make sure they know you want to work for them. Give them a call about once per week for the next two weeks, then once every 3 weeks.
I'm curious why you suggested he call so often, so soon...is it b/c the job was reposted and he may have a shot at it?
If not, and you're talking about just networking, then what is he supposed to say after one week, and then again the next week? Then, calling every 3 weeks indefinitely - isn't that way too often? I thought about once a month was the very max for networking IF you have something worthwhile to talk to them about that often, if not then just email to update them and say hello...
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