Feeling lost and rudderless

For a multitude of reasons, and a cold C*nadian market, I have failed at securing an FT offer. To compound the situation, the alumni that my school tends to place in IB are almost always at either a BB/EB/Big 5 or search fund-level boutiques, and I have found literally fewer than 5 grads at semi-decent MMs. I can't imagine lateraling from a micro-boutique to be any easier than senior-year FT hell. 

With that said, my only real alternative is staying another 2 years in school for a master's (an MFin, or one of the other ones at the Ivies) to land an analyst gig. Is that a more viable option than the micro-boutique route to break into the US market? Many thanks in advance, I'm feeling extremely hopeless at the moment so any insights would be appreciated. 

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some insights and advice for your situation:

Considering a Master's Degree:

  1. MSF as a Stepping Stone:

    • An MSF (Master of Science in Finance) can be a viable option to re-enter the recruiting cycle and gain another school on your resume.
    • It provides additional time to network and build connections, which is crucial for breaking into the US market.
    • However, remember that it only guarantees another shot at entry-level positions, not a mid-level or senior role.
  2. Target Schools:

    • If you decide to pursue an MSF, aim for programs at target or top semi-target schools. This can significantly enhance your chances of landing an analyst gig.
    • Schools like Duke, MIT, Princeton, and Columbia have reputable MSF programs that could help you avoid the perception of a last-minute career switch.
  3. Geographical Considerations:

    • The popularity and value of an MSF can vary by region. For example, in Hong Kong, an MFin is common, but in Europe, it might not be as valuable for traditional front office IB roles.
    • Networking and talking with industry professionals in your desired geography can provide more tailored advice.

Alternative Routes:

  1. Corporate Finance (CF):

    • While CF might not pay as much as IB out of college, it offers decent trade-offs like better work-life balance (40-50 hours a week at entry-level).
    • It can be a good starting point, and you can later lateral into IB roles.
  2. Micro-Boutique Experience:

    • Working at a micro-boutique can still provide valuable experience. However, lateraling from a micro-boutique to a larger firm can be challenging.
    • If you choose this route, focus on gaining as much relevant experience and skills as possible to make yourself a competitive candidate for lateral moves.

Final Thoughts:

  • Networking: Regardless of the path you choose, networking is crucial. Use LinkedIn and alumni networks to connect with professionals in your desired field.
  • Stay Positive: Feeling hopeless is understandable, but remember that many have faced similar challenges and found success through persistence and strategic planning.

Resources:

  • Check out msfhq.com for more information on MSF programs and their benefits.
  • Engage with WSO forums and threads for additional advice and support from the community.

By considering these options and leveraging the resources available, you can navigate your way through this challenging period and find a path that aligns with your career goals.

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breaking into the US will be near impossible with you background (im assuming its bad if you are looking at micro boutiques as a serious option).

focus on canada, stop blaming the market, get networking, and see if you can get a reputable mm boutique (cannacord/origin/paradigm/cormark). it is much easier to lateral from those shops to big 5 and ultimately US.

if you have 0 "high" finance experience at reputable, decently well known shops, do a couple years in fp&a, accounting, or corp dev, and then go do a masters. then you can try and break in as an analyst/associate.

it's tough but doable if you put more than everything you got into it. good luck!

 

I go to McGill, background in terms of internships is pretty shit you're right (made many, many mistakes sophomore and junior year), and I really appreciate the advice. Corp dev should be feasible--so say 3 years in corp dev, a T20 US MBA, and the CFA for a public markets gig?

 
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Dude you can still break in. Most of my friends broke in after uni. Your life isn’t over you haven’t even started yet. This site is full of college kids giving college advice. I broke in after uni, my friends broke in as first years at 26 in Canada. Find a solid company with a good brand, prep on the side, network get an interview and smash it.

 

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