How Do Y'all Deal with the Haters?????
Throughout my undergrad days I struggled hard for various reasons. As I strove more and more for Investment Banking I overextended myself trying to participate in case competitions, school, work, and trying to have a personal life. Although I didn't succeed in all of those areas I got by.
If your life is in any way affected by the haters, in anything other than motivation to succeed, then they've won.
riiiight... profs didn't vouch for you several times so they are haters.. no way it is a reflection of what they actually/impartially think of you..
If you're looking for BS reassurances like a 17 year old girl on Twitter you've come to the wrong place. Man up and move on.
Is this a serious question?
Are you considering "rubbing" the fact that you broke in to your parents and the professors you'll never see again? Yeah, you've got a lot of haters..
Working hard and making a lot of money is the American fucking Dream. If you're worried about your "haters" then you have much bigger problems.
I don't acknowledge or even think about them. Move on, they are inconsequential.
A "hater" is someone who knocks your success. If you weren't succeeding, your naysayers and antagonists weren't "haters."
Also, since your parents are paying your rent, unlike everyone else who is an adult, you're an ungrateful shit for even thinking about "rubbing it in their faces."
Grow up.
This post was written out of negative emotion. It was a non-post and it has been a frustrating road. I came to this forum because y'all have been in my situation.
lordbendtner I'm not looking for any validation of any sort just advice on how to carry on when it seems like the world is shitting on you. ATLAnalyst appreciate the input. CRE I will pay my own rent. Thanks for the input.
Don't take it personal. Don't worry about the haters/those who disagree/don't believe in you. Keep grinding away. Make bank. Repeat. Got it, thanks WSO.
You don't have to refuse your parents' offer. That's also ridiculous. You just should appreciate what they're doing for you and not want to rub your success in their faces.
Learn not to look for validation through how the rest of the world perceives you. That will likely remove both the cause of your angst and the longing for comfort through affirmation you are seeking.
As an aside - Facebook likes and other social media affirmation seems to have conditioned the post-millennial generation into seeking constant affirmation. @WallStreetOasis.com - perhaps you could start an Perhaps an E/N* subforum where kids can go to humble brag and angst out?
Haters (Originally Posted: 12/13/2010)
From Urban Dictionary Haters are "People that make up reasons to hate certain people just because they aren't as successfull as them. People are often hating:
On a serious note Bloomberg published a survey that shows +70% of Americans think big bonuses should be banned this year at Wall Street firms that took taxpayer bailouts - article doest not say if the survey distinguished the banks that have and have not payed back TARP.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-13/banning-big-wall-street-bonus-…
Basically the survey confirms that America (read bubbling populists) want Wall St. to pay for everyone's lack of judgement from 2001-2008. For example the majority of the individuals surveyed favor taxing Wall St. as a way to reduce the deficit. Populist in training Mr. Steven Previll from VA said, (or is this socialism)
“There’s an amazing amount of money being made on Wall Street. It would be cool if we could take some of that money and reinvest it in the country.”
I am not a pollyanna who thinks that Wall St. is 100% beneficial to the economy but "C'mon man". Even at the margins Wall St. does provide some benefit to society at large. Odds are that the same people who participated in this survey have a mortgage, car loans, student loans, and paid for Friday night's dinner with their credit card. Where do they think the money comes from - Visa's treasury? It seems that most of Americans believe Wall St. exists to benefit the few bankers that make up its ranks. It as if our population believe that they could have the the same if not better quality of life without Wall St.
I guess Hova sums up this situation the best when he says, "...would you rather be underpaid or overrated.."
I'm on 'your side' which i'd presume is WSOs side as well, but i believe Main Street's argument against financier bonuses is that theyre getting bonuses based on taxpayer $, i.e. the bonuses.
Whatever, bonuses are here to stay, remove those and noone will do the work that is done in high finance.
(DP)
Buddy of mine knows Eric Benet since they were kids. Word is you wanna smash Halle, you make an appointment...if you're her husband.
Yeah good point. Wall Street IS a charitable organization which is NOT based on a pyramid-like hierarchy where money rolls to the top and shit rolls to the bottom.
Those populist retards. Don't they realize that if Wall St. wasn't around to trade derivatives, manage money, and advise on mergers and acquisitions that the whole country, nay, the whole WORLD, would experience such a drastic decline in quality of life that suicide would become the number 1 cause of death OVERNIGHT?!?!
^ nice link
"I am not a pollyanna who thinks that Wall St. is 100% beneficial to the economy..." Thanks for taking the time to read the entire post, much appreciated...
I believe that without financial intermediaries quality of life would decline. No one woud argue financial intermediaries in their current form are the most effective. However, the abolition of banks would be akin to going back to the days when only a select few had access to capital to pursue what has become the de facto american/global dream of a college education and responsible home ownership.
you have a point about the pyramid-like hierarchy in Wall St . It IS the only industry where people at the top make all the money and those at the bottom catch the rolling shit that you speak of (think Gates, Slim, Ellison).... hit up Stalin bro that turned out really well.
BabyJ not all derivatives are bad just as not all derivatives are "needed". However, the gas you put in your car was produced by a refiner who has to hedge their input costs (crude oil) with these terrible derivatives (futures contract) that banks usually take the other side of. Without the ability to control input costs there would be many more times you pay +$4/gallon for gas outside Europe.
Capitalism is not the best option, however it is better than all the other alternatives
Envy is a natural and understandable human instinct. A democratic system and civil liberties form the basis for a healthy economy and as bankers, I think we do best by learning to work with it rather than to completely dismiss it out of hand.
I think the broader population in this country realizes something that many bankers might not realize- we're not the shizz. One day, we will probably be making less money than we are now- probably more in line with folks at the higher end of other professions (like oilfield geology, medicine, law, or engineering.)
Maybe if people focused on educating themselves and saving money instead of copying the jones they wouldn't be broke. You don't hear me crying about sports stars or trial lawyers salaries. Main street is comprised of a bunch of girls.
Oh, I forgot, bankers put a gun to peoples heads and FORCED them to take evey drop of equity out of their house to buy 10 LCD TVs.
Sadly I don't think many people think about that.
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