Jpmorgan v barclays v credit Suisse
Offers at all 3 IBD in NY. What's best based on prestige, pay and QOL? Thanks,
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Good stuff. Depends on the group. What is your background? Where did you summer and did you like it?
1) JPMorgan 2) Credit Suisse 3) Barclays
Congrats bro.
why do people view JPM so favorably around here? yes its one of the survivors, but it seems like a miserbale place to work with shitty pay
I say pick based on individual group and future goals as well....
Credit Suisse JPM Barclays
CS/JPM - depends on group (fit, dealflow, and, I can't believe I'm typing this, prestige) Barclays
What group at jpm? Unless its their m and a group, I say CS.
what groups are good at CS and JPM?
CS, JPM, Barcap
I hate the culture at JPM. Wouldn't work there. Beyond that, I would be ambivalent between CS and Barcap. Barcap has actually done relatively well and its image has been improving since the merger.
Heard JPM has strong M&A and natural resources and CS has great energy and sponsors
how are CS Tech M&A and M&A groups?
Both are very good. M&A is very strong and Tech is pretty good as well (although I think their tech prestige is mostly on west coast).
Can someone comment as to why everyone is putting CS>Barclays. Isn't it tough to call what the future will hold for BarCap? It probably won't become the old Lehman but has lots of potential.
lehman's stars left and barcap has had weak deal flow compared to others in the league tables. quite weak overall compared to jpm and cs.
I think it depends on what you are doing. I know barclays has a good NR group on par or better then CS
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JPM is more prestigious. what's wrong with their culture?
Don't know much about their FIG or natural resources practices, but they have incredibly strong lev fin, industrials, and healthcare practices.
And yeah, this is silly to compare straight up IBD offers unless you consider the group you get placed in. All of these banks have their top groups and decent groups. The only thing I'd stray from would be barclays. they did buy lehman, and yeah, many of the stars left, but at the end of the day they don't have too many groups that significantly outperform CS/JPM counterparts. Not to mention, going forward, who knows what'll happen with them, so I would be hesitant unless you feel risk-seeking with respect to your career.
In case you're still unsure (which is expected), do some research and at the end of the day go with the offer which has the people you like the most -- it's hard to work 100 hr/wks with people you hate. I would generally avoid factors such as 'prestige'. At the end of the day it's a soft consideration which is purely subjective and doesn't amount to much of anything. Focus on the place with the people you like the most.. you'll be a better analyst and will have better exit opps I'm sure.
Decently recent article on Barclays: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125322233998520905.html
CS best place probably bcoz of culture and the people I've met. JPM might be better in terms of their recognition in IBD but i think when it comes to learning and long term, CS. Plus CS kinda good at MnA, esp the latin market. So like what the rest would say, depending on the department. Dont really know much about Barclays
congrats anyway
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