What NOT to put in a Cover Letter/Resume
I received a cover letter, resume, and some other related collateral (a supposed 'research' report) relatively recently from a cold-emailer that I thought was worth highlighting, because it has some prime examples of what not to say/write to anyone ever. I'll post some excerpts below that will preserve the anonymity of the applicant:
Excuses
"I realize my professional experience is more in technology, and lacks in finance. I believe that was just bad luck due to graduating from my MBA program at the height of the "Great Recession", however, I am 100% committed and motivated to prove myself in a finance position."
Bad luck? No, it's the shitty and difficult to read resume, cover letter, and 'research reports' which are the issue. I'm almost certain you would be a terrible employee just by the quality of the work you sent me in a cold-email. You graduated from college 10 years ago, by the way. I remember at least a few of those as being pretty good years. If you were halfway decent, you could have squeaked in the industry in more than a few of those years. Please do not pin all of your circumstance on luck, especially in a cover letter. Even if the reader is a big believer in luck, you're telling him you're unlucky. Who wants to hire someone who's unlucky? It seems the bad luck streak started in utero, if you ask me.
Revealing your ignorance
Even worse than just plain ignorance, the below quote was from an attached research report that this guy wrote. Since he thought it was worth including, I assume the report was something he was proud of, but it was cringe-worthy.
"I am placing a STRONG BUY recommendation on [company]. ("ticker") and believe that [the company], at the current price of $10.00, trades at a 123% discount to my estimated fair market value of $22.30" (both made up numbers to scale to the actual numbers listed in the 'report').
123% discount? C'mon man. Don't you think about the stuff you write before you blast it out to hundreds of potential employers? Anyone that reads it will certainly never hire you.
The report should have never been attached. It made a weak applicant look even worse. He's clearly never done anything but 'book learn' on these subjects and it's painfully obvious by reading the report. He uses 4 valuation methodologies on the stock with the sole intention of showing that he knows more than one valuation method. If you're thinking of including a research report on a company when you're cold-emailing people, it's a high risk strategy. Your research probably sucks unless you've been doing so professionally. If there is any doubt at all about including a 'research report', do not do it.
(side note: the research report had a lot of opinions and not a lot of facts and it lacked connections between really basic facts about the current state of the business to the 'projections'.)
Miscellaneous
"Dear Hiring Manager,
I am an inquisitive mind that loves to use this innate trait towards evaluating the economy, markets, and stocks. Those skills are collecting data, and analyzing the data."
Face palm. This is how the cover letter starts. So much is wrong with this, I hope it does not require an explanation.
"computer skills" is mentioned in both the resume and cover letter. In general, if you are listing "computer skills" as one of your strengths, it probably isn't. You should probably be more specific or focus on something else.
"CORE COMPETANCIES" -- Listed as a major category on the resume. If your "computer skills" are so strong, you should probably know how to use spell check.
"Sincerely,
John Public, MBA"
You're not a medical doctor, you do not put "MBA" in your god damned signature. Seriously, wtf is wrong with you?
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yes but was he prestigious
I am so attracted to you right now...
Okay, why the fuck does the SB button now look like the iPhone's WiFi icon? Sorry for the accidental MS. You're still hot.
This may be an ignorant question - and feel free to tell me so - but what IS the best way to convey you're inexperience in a certain field without sounding like a waste of time? I'm finishing up my MBA in about a month after ~5 years in law and (hopefully) moving into ER and trying to get across (in a cover letter) that I might not be as experienced as some others, but I'm a quick learn, willing to work for every inch, good communication skills, etc. Rest assured I would never write something like John Public sent you - but I just keep rereading what I've written and not particularly happy with what I've come up with.
This is why I think cover letters are stupid. When has anything of value ever been said in one?
kind of like texting, nothing written with thumbs has ever been important.
123% discount, LOL!
Stock is SO CHEAP they're just giving it away. In fact they're paying you to take it off their hands...an infinity bagger for sure.
Well, at least it wasn't 456% or even 789%.
At least he didn't say he would be "110% committed and motivated". He wisely capped that at 100%.
Oh no, the number 123% just reads like B.S., like he got the research report from 'freeresearchreport.com' and never changed the dummy numbers. I was simply being sarcastic.
Serious question from someone who doesn't have a lot of contact with MBAs or CFAs in the local market: is as pretentious for charterholders to put CFA after their names, as it is for someone to put MBA? I do see PhD and MD quite often, but I guess that's different.
This is pretty bad - reminds me of an exchange I had with someone random on LinkedIn earlier this month...for some reason, I kept trying to help before giving up and/or realize I was being trolled:
On 07/05/13 11:15 AM, NAME wrote:
On 07/06/13 10:34 AM, Patrick Curtis wrote:
I would come join the community...you seem a bit scattered. Not a good idea to risk capital with the goal to generate $30,000, unless you maybe have $100k+ to invest. Otherwise, you are really gambling. If you are looking for a mentor, I'd check out here: //www.wallstreetoasis.com/wall-street-mentors-finance-mock-interviews or join our forums.
Best of luck, Patrick
On 07/07/13 12:31 PM, NAME wrote:
...after telling him his analogy of me starting the business and him playing the markets was a bad one for a variety of reasons and trying to discourage him from trying to play the markets to help him "win" $30k, it continued:
...for some reason I continued to try and show him how flawed his logic was...i didn't know trolls sent PMs over LinkedIn? Is this guy for real?
Face palm x100
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lmao...seriously cant tell if you are being trolled...did you respond to the last part?
no, I gave up :-)
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Judging by the quality level of most articles I see published on LinkedIn, I think this guy has a pretty good chance of becoming one of their top "Influencers" there if he starts posting all that, split into a series of articles.
Every time I stress about not finding work once I finish B-school, I read something like that, and things just seem....better.
No kidding, getting laid off soon and being reminded that these are some of the guys Im up against is a huge moral booster!
I usually put BSD after my name in an email instead of MBA or CFA even on emails with many recipients. I can't tell you how many notes I get back asking "What does BSD mean?". It is a big conversation starter and attention grabber. The second response is even more intriguing, when I tell them it means "big swinging dick" I either get a laugh or a note back filled with disgust.
Wow, we need to compile a list of these awkward exchanges.
Sorry OP, that was me =(. I am still 100% committed (in a psychiatric hospital).
I noticed the trend of putting credentials in the signature as well, and it's not so far fetched...
For people who have limited experience (raises hand) or are looking for work after having been in the same position for a long time, it's another way to try get yourself noticed. As it has become more common as of late, I can't speak to how effective it is now, but it's certainly not done to appear pretentious or inflate one's ego.
Great post. Thanks for sharing!
I need to figure out your identity and blow you away with my professionalism despite my unprestigious background. Fun post, thanks for sharing with us.
Funny you mention the use of MBA after his name, I just overheard a couple of our accounts payable clerks dogging someone for doing that. They even used a variation of "you're not a doctor." When the cubicle ladies are talking smack, that's a telltale sign you shouldn't do it.
Fuck, HR has definitely been laughing at me for putting B.S. after my name.
Yeah man, you should never leave out the 'D' at the end.
I put CFA after my name, and without any shame...
Fuck you dude. I sought out your advice and guidance in confidence.
I like "Wall Street Oasis of Monkeys." And I am re-reading those PMs so I can find a good tagline.
The guy must have been on drugs during this exchange or something. As a troll its not even funny
Lol. Need to set up a LinkedIn troll account. First email goes to Patrick.
My instinct is as volatile as the markets is one of the best things I've read in a while
Most shocking part of this thread, Patrick still reads his own PMs on linkedin. Gotta hire an intern to filter out the trolls.
Need to spend some more time reading threads here. This one was golden.
All these terrible candidates get the same treatment:
(Smile) handshake "we'll call you" (close door, delete and ignore).
this is hilarious!
Poorly written, blah, blah, blah...
My question is: If it was a Harvard grad, all sins are forgiven, aren't they ?
Show me someone who hasn't laid down the red carpet for Harvard grads. Employers, they'll even rewrite their Resumes for them if it just happens to be that bad like the above.
True Story: Harvard MBA gets hired at top firm - guy can't even speak English, which I think is one of the most basic requirements to function in America, at any level.
Wtf are you even talking about?
A million bucks says this guy was Indian. Was he Indian??
Patrick just opened himself up to trolling.
dick picks are an absolute game changer on your resume....not sure if they should go on the cover letter though
Though I am an undergraduate student, after all, one candidate like the above situation gets 'PASS' if a well-known MBA program is stated on the CV. If not, good luck.
10 Words/Terms That Ruin a Resume (Originally Posted: 07/16/2012)
andy note: thought some of you could find these helpful (from monster.com senior editor)
Your resume needs an update -- that is, if your resume is like that of most people, it’s not as good as it could be. The problem is language: Most resumes are a thicket of deadwood words and phrases -- empty cliches, annoying jargon and recycled buzzwords. Recruiters, HR folks and hiring managers see these terms over and over again, and it makes them sad.
Wouldn’t you rather make them happy? It’s time to start raking out your resume, starting with these (and similar) terms.
1. “Salary negotiable”
Yes, they know. If you’re wasting a precious line of your resume on this term, it looks as though you’re padding -- that you’ve run out of things to talk about. If your salary is not negotiable, that would be somewhat unusual. (Still, don’t put that on your resume either.)
2. “References available by request”
See the preceding comment about unnecessary terms.
3. “Responsible for ______”
Reading this term, the recruiter can almost picture the C-average, uninspired employee mechanically fulfilling his job requirements -- no more, no less. Having been responsible for something isn’t something you did -- it’s something that happened to you. Turn phrases like “responsible for” into “managed,” “led” or other decisive, strong verbs.
4. “Experience working in ______”
Again, experience is something that happens to you -- not something you achieve. Describe your background in terms of achievements.
5. “Problem-solving skills”
You know who else has problem-solving skills? Monkeys. Dogs. On your resume, stick to skills that require a human.
6. “Detail-oriented”
So, you pay attention to details. Well, so does everyone else. Don’t you have something unique to tell the hiring manager? Plus, putting this on your resume will make that accidental typo in your cover letter or resume all the more comical.
7. “Hardworking”
Have you ever heard the term “show -- don’t tell”? This is where that might apply. Anyone can call himself a hard worker. It’s a lot more convincing if you describe situations in concrete detail in which your hard work benefited an employer.
8. “Team player”
See the preceding comment about showing instead of telling. There are very few jobs that don’t involve working with someone else. If you have relevant success stories about collaboration, put them on your resume. Talk about the kinds of teams you worked on, and how you succeeded.
see the rest of the list at http://career-advice.monster.com/resumes-cover-letters/resume-writing-t…
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Also, be careful saying you are an expert, "expert at Excel". They may call you on it.
Guilty of "responsible for"
In regards to "excel master" ... bring it. But seriously, don't.
Are you an expert Turtle?
So regarding 2, does this mean do not mention references whatsoever or maybe include their contact details at the bottom. I've heard a lot of conflicting information about that
don't provide reference information until asked. it is assumed that you have them. you don't need to tell people that you have references and you don't need to list your references until you are asked.
You hit #4 with a nail on the head. Its about your achievements not your experience.
Anything that's not a power word. Such as "participated in," "observed"
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