Hello fellow monkeys,
A story for you all.
I work for a satellite HQ office (instead of the global HQ) for a multinational F500.
I recently interviewed for a position that I was really interested and eager in getting.
So the timeline was like this,
Interview Monday
Send thank you note afterwards
Hiring manager responds.
Send followup on Friday (after being told I'd hear back within the week).
Send followup on Monday
Manager sends a message along the lines saying that such frequent follow up will typically hurt my chances, and to not take being internal for granted.
I respond hoping to remedy the situation, but at the time I didn't feel I had any major reason to apologize.
I probably didn't get the position, even though they said they'd keep me posted. I'll probably always think of this scenario in future occasions
What would you guys have done?
Tell the manager you've dinged him for not adhering to the agreed upon timetable.
Dominance asserted.
I've been going through a lateral process recently (and had about 2 years ago as well) -- 95% of the deadlines they have given for hearing back, setting up a phone interview, scheduling flights, whatever, they have missed. I was tempted a few times to send notes asking what is going on but you have to realize that these people are busy and this is not their top priority, lateral processes are also a lot less structured so there are not hard and fast deadlines for them, which means they can slack. I get that you are eager but you've been impatient and don't know what circumstances they are dealing with on their end. The follow up note should have been your last communication until at least a full week after + a few days (I know you said 'within the week' but it may have been misstated or your heard wrong).
thanks for your input.
I realize the final Monday follow up was a bit over the top in more ways than not.
I should have been more wary of their time. Just because I might have the means to reply to such emails, I shouldn't expect everyone to be in the same boat.
Thansk fo your repy. It very informative for me.
I think you're making it a bigger deal than it really is. You sent 3 emails when you probably should have sent 2, but at the same time the hiring manager is a doofus for his or her response. Heaven forbid you're eager and proactive, right?
I think in the future just be aware that while Friday to Monday is 3-4 days in reality, some people don't check their emails over the weekend so it looked like you followed up two days in a row.
This is exactly what I thought as well in the beginning.
But I guess everyone thinks differently.
I never thought I had made a mistake, but I will definitely think twice from now in similar situations.
I always add a week to the stated follow up time, unless I have the senior position in the situation. when I was interviewing and the person said they'll be back within a week, I'd call exactly 1 week after they said they would. I got much more call backs this way than when I would follow up the day I'm supposed to hear back. people realize "oh shit! I forgot to respond, better do that now!" instead of "jesus christ kid, I said a week and it's been a week and 15 minutes, gimme a break!"
lesson learned, and no harm no foul.
Don't stress it too much. Just realize that not everyone is into the whole "over-communicate" thing that many bankers (i.e. the slant of this forum) may be into. Like others have said, maybe wait a couple of days next time.
Realistically you shouldn't of sent an e-mail on Monday but its not that big of a deal. Friday is always a crap shoot whether you get a response from people for a variety of reasons.
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as a follow up to this post --
I got the position!!
Nonetheless, lesson learned.
woohooo! congrats man!!!
cool man guess i'm chopped liver
not at all bro. I should have been more inclusive in my reply, apologies. (or am I missing the point here?)
It can be ok to follow up sometimes, if you need to make arrangements on your end (I.e. transitioning work to peer, getting out of office coverage for being out of office to interview, needing to make travel plans). In this case I think the email on Monday was a bit much but if you did well in the interview I don't see why it would ding you.
That manager sounds like he is going to be fun to work under!
Friday is "within the week," so you probably shouldn't have followed up that early. You also probably shouldn't have followed up on your follow up the next business day.
This reminds me of one of my favorite scenes in Swingers:
Thansk fo your repy. It very informative for me.
The immutable law of the hiring universe--if a company is interested then it will get back to you.
If you are interested in the role after you interview, always shoot over a thank you note. If the company is interested in you then the hiring manager or HR will follow-up with you. The ball is in their court. Hiring is a critical business practice, so the candidates the hiring managers are interested in aren't just forgotten about because of radio silence. If you are one of the right candidates they will get back to you.
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