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Depends how muscular. Naturally muscular? Then who cares about the cons you're jacked and healthy, anyone who thinks you're an idiot is more than likely jealous. Steroids? Yeah your health may deteriorate long-term and people who don't workout will potentially think negatively of you, but jacked dudes will think you're the shit. 

Maybe I have some bias, but I workout daily, and am naturally jacked and lean. If someone thought less of me because of that, first that's weird and second it's their problem. If anything I'd be more impressed that someone can keep a good physique while working tough hours because it shows they're dedicated to bettering themselves.

 

Makes sense. Your lifts are advanced or at least late intermediate, which usually takes 4-5 years of proper and dedicated programming. I guess it really is size= strength, except for when people are using massive amounts of steroids lol. I think as a natty you need to have a really good strength base to look big. I've been lifting for a little over 2 years now (although one of them was basically a wash I didn't get to use any barbells because of COVID and resorted to weighted pushups and BSS during lockdown at home and dumbbells in my apartment gym at university since other gyms were closed), and I still don't think I look big. People who haven't seem me in a while say I look a lot bigger. I probably am compared to where I started but still feel small for the lifting community. All my lifts are in the early intermediate category though, so I probably just need to be patient and keep getting stronger on the compound lifts. Seems like it takes 5 years to look like you lift as a natty, assuming the training, diet, and strength is on point. Good job btw. Do you do OHP at all?

 
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I think height and genetics are pretty huge for looking like you lift. I have broad shoulders and am pretty big overall (great lat insertions, big legs, big shoulders) but am also on the shorter end so I'll look bigger. I think people noticed I lift within 2 years, but there's no question now lol.

I don't OHP, just close grip bench press (that's my main bench movement that I hit for 245). I haven't done an OHP in probably 3 years. I noticed early on the greater my close grip bench press gets, the greater my OHP is but not vice versa so I scrapped it. All I've done for the last 3 years is lateral raises, believe it or not. I think that's been the most helpful for shoulder width (I hit 45s for 2 hard sets of 13-15 yesterday) which I think is pretty absurd. I do band pull aparts and stuff like that before every workout for my back, scapula, and rear delts, plus stretch after every workout. I personally don't target my front delts at all because I feel like I hit it enough with bench/push movements and too much front delts targeting can ruin posture. 

Hope that helps!

 

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