(Breitling) Watch Question/Suggestions?

Okay guys, I need some watch experts or someone who knows even a little about watches to give me some guidance here.

I'm gettin' ready to buy a watch for graduation, and I've got enough of my own money that I don't feel like I have to buy an $800 watch to avoid looking like a spoiled bitch, so my price range is something respectable in the $3-6k range. I don't want a Rolex just because I see that as too typical, and I've been eyeing a mid-level Breitling for somethin' like $4k I believe. Only requirements are as follows:

-Steel band
-Not too ostentatious or huge of a watch face
-Preference towards "edgy"-ish brands, nothing overly boring

There's a 99% chance that someone who knows anything about watches thinks I sound retarded and they're probably right, but any help would be great. Also would love to know if I'm getting a good price or not. Here's the watch I'm targeting right now, no idea if the price is good or what. SBs for any good advice guys, thanks!

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=br…

 

Whether it was your money or not, anybody who notices the watch is just going to think your Dad bought bought it for you if you spend ~$4,000 on a watch as a college student or recent grad.

Maybe get an iPod nano watch for something different and cheap. Or a swatch. 'in betweener' watches don't work, so get something cheap or something awesome. Cheap would be better for now.

 
SirTradesaLot:
Whether it was your money or not, anybody who notices the watch is just going to think your Dad bought bought it for you if you spend ~$4,000 on a watch as a college student or recent grad.

Maybe get an iPod nano watch for something different and cheap. Or a swatch. 'in betweener' watches don't work, so get something cheap or something awesome. Cheap would be better for now.

How about if the people around you aren't that insecure?

 
WhiteHat:
SirTradesaLot:
Whether it was your money or not, anybody who notices the watch is just going to think your Dad bought bought it for you if you spend ~$4,000 on a watch as a college student or recent grad.

Maybe get an iPod nano watch for something different and cheap. Or a swatch. 'in betweener' watches don't work, so get something cheap or something awesome. Cheap would be better for now.

How about if the people around you aren't that insecure?

I thought you were going to work in the financial services industry?
 
<span class=keyword_link><a href=/resources/skills/finance/going-concern>Going Concern</a></span>:
SirTradesaLot:
'in betweener' watches don't work

What does it mean for a watch to "work" ?

They don't ooze douchiness or practicality. You need to pick your side with respect to your timepiece.
 

I chuckled at not wanting to be ostentatious, then you post a Super Avenger. Anyways, I have a Chronomat Evolution, and it's great, but I have my eyes on an IWC and I will probably stick with leather bands from now on.

Here's some suggestions:

Omega Planet Ocean - http://www.authenticwatches.com/22015000.html?productid=22015000&channe…

Breitling Superocean - https://www.google.com/shopping/product/10646098738269382404?hl=en&scli…

Tag Heuer Carrera - https://www.google.com/shopping/product/5304297805472169668?hl=en&sclie…

These are the holy grail of watches (not Patek) IWC Portuguese Chrono - https://www.google.com/shopping/product/10633858211196214911?hl=en&scli…

IWC Portuguese Automatic - https://www.google.com/shopping/product/2080680496245078673?hl=en&sclie…

IWC Portuguese Perpetual Calendar - http://www.thefinestwatches.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/catalog.viewProduc…

 

[quote=BTbanker]I chuckled at not wanting to be ostentatious, then you post a Super Avenger. Anyways, I have a Chronomat Evolution, and it's great, but I have my eyes on an IWC and I will probably stick with leather bands from now on.

Here's some suggestions:

Omega Planet Ocean - http://www.authenticwatches.com/22015000.html?productid=22015000&channe…

Breitling Superocean - https://www.google.com/shopping/product/10646098738269382404?hl=en&scli…

Tag Heuer Carrera - https://www.google.com/shopping/product/5304297805472169668?hl=en&sclie…

These are the holy grail of watches (not Patek) IWC Portuguese Chrono - https://www.google.com/shopping/product/10633858211196214911?hl=en&scli…

IWC Portuguese Automatic - https://www.google.com/shopping/product/2080680496245078673?hl=en&sclie…

IWC Portuguese Perpetual Calendar - http://www.thefinestwatches.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/catalog.viewProduc…]

The Super Avenger looks pretty damn plain to me... I don't know anything about watches but what am I missing? Haha. And do those IWCs come with a steel band on any of 'em?

 
WhiteHat:
The Super Avenger looks pretty damn plain to me... I don't know anything about watches but what am I missing? Haha. And do those IWCs come with a steel band on any of 'em?

The Super Avenger is okay, but it's still pretty flashy. My favorite Breitling is the Navitimer: http://www.ornatus-mundi.ch/images/Watches/Breitling/Breitling_Navitime…

None of those IWCs come with steel bands. What do you have against leather? It's much more formal.

 

Personally, I like leather bands, but it is a personal preference. As for watch brands go, I have a Breitling, but for 4-6K if you are set on getting a watch I would recommend some other brands. Mainly:

IWC Jaeger Lecoultre Glashutte Original

The 4-6K will be entry level (and tough to find) and most of these watches have leather bands, but as far as quality I would rank those ahead of Breitling. I like some of the smaller, less known watch brands as well, but most are pretty hard to find.

 
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I wouldn't personally buy a Breitling if I was in my early twenties! It's a beautiful brand and they have nice models but I think that it is targeted more towards people who are in their 40-50ies.

Omaga has a few watches that are quite similar to the one you mentioned!

Within your price range you could get an omega speedmaster professional moonwatch (link). If think it's around 4-5k.

Omaga speedmaster date (link). Same price range if I'm correct.

I'm a big fan of APs (particularly the royal oak dual time) but the price is unfortunately over your budget...

If I were you, I'd take my time and browse through many manufacturers and but the one you like the most. You'll be spending a few thousand dollars to wear a watch all day long, you better like it and not pick the one somebody else mentioned!

 
MEvolutionToday:
I wouldn't personally buy a Breitling if I was in my early twenties! It's a beautiful brand and they have nice models but I think that it is targeted more towards people who are in their 40-50ies.

Omaga has a few watches that are quite similar to the one you mentioned!

Within your price range you could get an omega speedmaster professional moonwatch (link). If think it's around 4-5k.

Omaga speedmaster date (link). Same price range if I'm correct.

I'm a big fan of APs (particularly the royal oak dual time) but the price is unfortunately over your budget...

If I were you, I'd take my time and browse through many manufacturers and but the one you like the most. You'll be spending a few thousand dollars to wear a watch all day long, you better like it and not pick the one somebody else mentioned!

2 things... first, your user pic is awesome. Second, thanks for the advice. Omega's are the James Bond watch IIRC, haven't looked into them too much but probably should. And I've seen used Royal Oaks for like $6k but still don't think I should be rocking that this early, haha. My buddy's got one and I think it only works if you're more established.

I've always liked the Breitling cuz I know some guys in USAF and NSW who rock the Aerowolf or whatever it's called and always thought it was badass. Never thought of it as an old guy watch before really!

 
WhiteHat:
MEvolutionToday:
I wouldn't personally buy a Breitling if I was in my early twenties! It's a beautiful brand and they have nice models but I think that it is targeted more towards people who are in their 40-50ies.

Omaga has a few watches that are quite similar to the one you mentioned!

Within your price range you could get an omega speedmaster professional moonwatch (link). If think it's around 4-5k.

Omaga speedmaster date (link). Same price range if I'm correct.

I'm a big fan of APs (particularly the royal oak dual time) but the price is unfortunately over your budget...

If I were you, I'd take my time and browse through many manufacturers and but the one you like the most. You'll be spending a few thousand dollars to wear a watch all day long, you better like it and not pick the one somebody else mentioned!

2 things... first, your user pic is awesome. Second, thanks for the advice. Omega's are the James Bond watch IIRC, haven't looked into them too much but probably should. And I've seen used Royal Oaks for like $6k but still don't think I should be rocking that this early, haha. My buddy's got one and I think it only works if you're more established.

I've always liked the Breitling cuz I know some guys in USAF and NSW who rock the Aerowolf or whatever it's called and always thought it was badass. Never thought of it as an old guy watch before really!

Yes, James Bond went from Rolex to Omega! He's got the seamaster if I'm correct. Here's a link to the seamaster collection (link). The whole 300 M collection is in your price range I think!

You're right about the royal oaks, I love them but would not wear them if I was 20-25 (at least in a professional environment). Royal oaks are discreet and AP manufactures overall beautiful watches!

I live in Europe and like you mentioned about your friend, the majority of people I know who wear Breitlings are pilots. Being in Europe, I have no idea about the trends in the USA so I might be wrong about Breitling and the age range but thought I'd mention it.

Keep us updated about your research.

 

Kidding aside, I would be really hesitant to buy an expensive watch coming out of college if you are going to an asset manager. It has the potential to send the wrong signals to clients. People will assume you are older and can afford it (good outcome) or they may think you are young and careless with money (bad). Buying expensive things that are unnecessary does not scream "value buyer", which is what you want to be perceived as, most likely.

My $0.02.

 
SirTradesaLot:
Kidding aside, I would be really hesitant to buy an expensive watch coming out of college if you are going to an asset manager. It has the potential to send the wrong signals to clients. People will assume you are older and can afford it (good outcome) or they may think you are young and careless with money (bad). Buying expensive things that are unnecessary does not scream "value buyer", which is what you want to be perceived as, most likely.

My $0.02.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think I'm gonna be client facing any time soon... and not to sound like a prick but it's not really a watch I consider expensive, as I have plenty of my own money, just that if I spend any more than that it looks dickish for someone my age... though even the price range I'm looking at could be seen as dickish given the responses! I'm not a watch guy at all so I plead ignorance, I just see it as a piece of jewelry that has been something I've always been taught you only can wear when you are finally able to support yourself.

But my real question is still simply asking if there are any similar alternatives that would be more interesting than something typical like a Rolex or an Omega or whatever. I loved the Glashuttes I saw but for whatever reason I'm very partial to the steel band and I don't know if any of those are available with steel.

 

I wear a $30 digital wrist watch, so that's what I would recommend. Of course I'm basically a clueless buffoon and that kind of watch doesn't meet any of your jewelry requirements, so I guess it won't work. I do see your point though of how $6000 watches are better at telling the time and how one is entitled to something like that once they have a job. Fits nicely with your avatar. I don't see why hedge fund partners should have all the fun. Rock that Patek Phillipe and show everyone who's baus.

 
Going Concern:
I wear a $30 digital wrist watch, so that's what I would recommend. Of course I'm basically a clueless buffoon and that kind of watch doesn't meet any of your jewelry requirements, so I guess it won't work. I do see your point though of how $6000 watches are better at telling the time and how one is entitled to something like that once they have a job. Fits nicely with your avatar. I don't see why hedge fund partners should have all the fun. Rock that Patek Phillipe and show everyone who's baus.

No you're right, and I'm glad you brought up the part where I said all that stuff about how important telling time is to my watch decision. It's so great to have helpful certified members like you around. What industry are you in exactly?

 
WhiteHat:
Going Concern:
I wear a $30 digital wrist watch, so that's what I would recommend. Of course I'm basically a clueless buffoon and that kind of watch doesn't meet any of your jewelry requirements, so I guess it won't work. I do see your point though of how $6000 watches are better at telling the time and how one is entitled to something like that once they have a job. Fits nicely with your avatar. I don't see why hedge fund partners should have all the fun. Rock that Patek Phillipe and show everyone who's baus.

No you're right, and I'm glad you brought up the part where I said all that stuff about how important telling time is to my watch decision. It's so great to have helpful certified members like you around. What industry are you in exactly?

Don't feed the trolls kid...

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 
WhiteHat:
Going Concern:
I wear a $30 digital wrist watch, so that's what I would recommend. Of course I'm basically a clueless buffoon and that kind of watch doesn't meet any of your jewelry requirements, so I guess it won't work. I do see your point though of how $6000 watches are better at telling the time and how one is entitled to something like that once they have a job. Fits nicely with your avatar. I don't see why hedge fund partners should have all the fun. Rock that Patek Phillipe and show everyone who's baus.

No you're right, and I'm glad you brought up the part where I said all that stuff about how important telling time is to my watch decision. It's so great to have helpful certified members like you around. What industry are you in exactly?

Why are you asking me what industry I'm in? Why does that matter to you? Are you asking me if I'm in some industry where it's better to spend thousands of dollars to show off instead of on something that adds tangible benefit to your life? If so, then no, I'm not in that industry.

 
AndyLouis:
why at your age do you desire a $3k watch? just curious..

The guys I'm working for won't let me run my fund anymore, so I'm shutting down and want to get myself a retirement gift, as is the custom! I guess I'm coming to the wrong place to watch advice though as nobody can look past this idea of a 21 year old wearing a nice watch. Hell, where I come from this watch is pretty cheap compared to what the spoiled brats I hung out with back home got from their daddies. I intentionally am going cheaper than I could/planned on but apparently that's not cheap enough!

 
WhiteHat:
AndyLouis:
why at your age do you desire a $3k watch? just curious..

The guys I'm working for won't let me run my fund anymore, so I'm shutting down and want to get myself a retirement gift, as is the custom! I guess I'm coming to the wrong place to watch advice though as nobody can look past this idea of a 21 year old wearing a nice watch. Hell, where I come from this watch is pretty cheap compared to what the spoiled brats I hung out with back home got from their daddies. I intentionally am going cheaper than I could/planned on but apparently that's not cheap enough!

honestly, this is kind of a douchebag thread to begin with. but it's all good.

it's your money, spend it on what you like. that's what it's for. even if the people you work with will think you're an asshole, they know how much you make. it's not like it's a secret that you're getting paid around 100k all-in the first year. daddy didn't need to buy shit. your boss paid for it.

fuck it, buy a 10k watch if that's what you like. why does it have to be in that price range though? what if you like a watch that's worth 1k? why don't you go on a watch forum, and figure out what you like?

but yeah, the omega is badass.

 
WhiteHat:
AndyLouis:
why at your age do you desire a $3k watch? just curious..

The guys I'm working for won't let me run my fund anymore, so I'm shutting down and want to get myself a retirement gift, as is the custom! I guess I'm coming to the wrong place to watch advice though as nobody can look past this idea of a 21 year old wearing a nice watch. Hell, where I come from this watch is pretty cheap compared to what the spoiled brats I hung out with back home got from their daddies. I intentionally am going cheaper than I could/planned on but apparently that's not cheap enough!

lmao just give up dude

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 
WhiteHat:
AndyLouis:
why at your age do you desire a $3k watch? just curious..

The guys I'm working for won't let me run my fund anymore, so I'm shutting down and want to get myself a retirement gift, as is the custom! I guess I'm coming to the wrong place to watch advice though as nobody can look past this idea of a 21 year old wearing a nice watch. Hell, where I come from this watch is pretty cheap compared to what the spoiled brats I hung out with back home got from their daddies. I intentionally am going cheaper than I could/planned on but apparently that's not cheap enough!

See I have no problem with a 21 year old dropping that kind of cash for a watch, what I do have a problem with is that you are clearly not a watch person at all. Honestly, if you think dropping 5k on an accessory that you don't even consider a hobby then you need to re-evaluate how you spend money. The difference in income level between those "spoiled brats" who use their parents money and you making 100k is so great that I really dont even see how you can think about comparing yourself to them.

Honest advice, work hard, do something significant and once you crack a mil before 30 then buy yourself a nice watch.

 

I guess it's a cultural thing but I consider my 6k watch one of the best investments I ever made, if you like watches it's just something that you'll enjoy wearing for years to come. And while I get that in some places it might send the wrong signal, it really depends of your colleagues. In my experience people either don't care (90% of the people) or if they are watch people themselves, they'll appreciate it. Maybe it's a more european thing but I think having a nice watch is generally a good thing as long as it's not over the top. In your case I'd go with either Tissot if you're worried about the message it might send or given your partiality to steal Tudor. What's great with Tudor is that it's a great watch, right in your price range, and people that don't care about watches won't realize its expensive, so it's not ostentious like a rolex or a breitling.

 

I've only read about half the comments, so apologies in advance if these brands have already been mentioned. For a young guy looking for his first "real" watch I would recommend that you check out Sinn or Stowa. Specifically, I'd look at the Sinn 556 or Stowa Marine Original. Both are reasonably priced at around $1-1.5K, and are well made with good quality Swiss movements. More importantly, both brands,while well respected by watch guys, fly under the radar of the general public. No chance anyone will think your a spoiled brat.

For $4K I just go for a Omega Speedmaster Pro. It's a truly iconic watch. You could also check out a used Seamaster PO with the 2500 movement. I'd stay away for Breitling at your age. I tend to think of them as more of an older guys watch.

 

i was in a similar boat and ended up buying several "middle-to-low high end" watches (e.g. breitling navitimer, omega speedmaster, jaeger 8-day, etc.) when i got out of college. fast forward ten years later, i keep the watches on a box/winder and take them out to wear only occasionally. the only watch i wear on a regular basis is a timex running watch. it's one thing to receive it as a gift but spending that kind of money, especially at your age is a bit ridiculous. in hindsight, i wish i had just taken that cash, invested it and i'd probably have enough to purchase a patek or two at this point. watches, espeically the entry level ones like you are thinking of purchasing, are like cars...the moment you buy them, the value depreciates rapidly.

sounds like i probably won't convince you not to pull the trigger so i'd point you to buy used. consider a reputable online forum (timezone.com has 2 selling forum - one under $5k and one over) and purchase a used watch that has been maintained in very good condition by someone who knows about watches. as far as brands, $3k to $6k doesn't get you too far in the world of watches...i'd stick to breitling and omegas are probably your best bet. i'd stay away from tags as the craftsmanship isn't in the same league. iwc/jaeger/glashutte/panerai are all great but i think they are the next step up from what you want to spend. specific watches to consider:

breitling colts or avenger omega seamaster or speedmaster iwc pilot's watch rolex explorer

 

I've owned a lot of different watches and currently have a 1971 Rolex Red Sub, Breitling Emergency, and an IWC Chrono (3714). If you need help buying or pricing a watch, PM me. I've never gotten anything but compliments and its usually from someone else who loves watches and recognizes what you are wearing.

Rule #1) Never buy new, I've bought and sold 6-7 watches in the 5-10K range and if you buy in the forums market (timezone.com) or gray market you can get a watch that will appreciate in value over the years.
Rule #2) Buy what you love and take your time to try on a ton of watches and brands, it doesn't matter what other people like... what do you like, what sings to you? Rule #3) Stop caring about what other people think about your choices, this applies to everything in life. Some people like nice watches, some people like nice cars, other people like to blow it all on bar tabs.

I personally like Vintage Rolex, IWC, Panerai, Omega, Zenith for your price range. Goodluck.

 

I second the buy used comment. Breitling is a great watch, but most models are pretty flashy. Be prepared to talk about it and get questions. I am a huge Omega fan and they are in your price range. Slightly less flashy also. I'd recommend the sea or speed master.

 

IMO Breitlings are as gaudy as watches go.

Take a look at the Omega Planet Ocean. It's in your price range, has multiple bands that you can switch up to essentially give you three watches (steel, rubber, leather) and it can be worn casually or with a suit.

Big thing I like about it is that most people don't even notice it unless they are into watches, so you won't come across like a douche.

 

You mentioned looking for and slightly edgy watch. Look at some of the smaller brands that are still very high end. Panerai has already been mentioned but two companies that produce beautiful looking watches that aren't too flashy but are extremely well made are Ulysse Nardin and Glasshute.

Perks of Ulysse Nardin and Glasshute:

-Both companies are well enough known to any serious watch collector as to gain some respect. -Someone who knows little about watches wont look twice (Removes douschebag factor often associated with rolex) -Ulysse is swiss made, fantastic movement (just moved away from swatch ETA to their own), wide variety of elegant and daily wear watches.

Cons:

-Pushing the limit of your 3-6k range (Could probably find pre-owned for 4-5 but new will run you 6-7)

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
 

I think shut up and keep the watch which u hv or else just see the wall clock or the bloody phone for hell's sale. Spend the $4K on suits and pants to be respectable on job day.

Personally i dont get what sort of "Alphaness" oozes out if u flaunt a 4k Breitling or Omega or whatever the shit watch is there. People judge u by ur personality, tidiness and boldness.

A 21 yr old buying costly watches is obviously a highly spoilt boy and porobably just doesnt hv value for money.

I pity that.

Youngsterz these days.........

If you ain't gettin money dat mean you done somethin wrong. " If you have built castles in the air , your work need not be lost; that is where they should be . Now put the foundations under them." - Henry David Thoreau
 

My 4000 dollars.

If you ain't gettin money dat mean you done somethin wrong. " If you have built castles in the air , your work need not be lost; that is where they should be . Now put the foundations under them." - Henry David Thoreau
 

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If you ain't gettin money dat mean you done somethin wrong. " If you have built castles in the air , your work need not be lost; that is where they should be . Now put the foundations under them." - Henry David Thoreau
 

Yeah, take it from someone who has a bunch of watches and is a little older. No one cares what you are rocking. Women only recognize Rolex and people at work couldn't give a shit. I mean I love watches and will probably snag a Rolex before year end, but my favorite watch is my great uncles $400 gold watch.

I'd probably recommend you get a used seamaster. Great watch, probably get out for $1K and pocket the rest.

 
<span class=keyword_link><a href=/company/trilantic-north-america>TNA</a></span>:
Yeah, take it from someone who has a bunch of watches and is a little older. No one cares what you are rocking. Women only recognize Rolex and people at work couldn't give a shit. I mean I love watches and will probably snag a Rolex before year end, but my favorite watch is my great uncles $400 gold watch.

I'd probably recommend you get a used seamaster. Great watch, probably get out for $1K and pocket the rest.

I second the Omega. Speedmaster, specifically. Holds its value much better than any other sub-5Ker.

 
TNA:
Yeah, take it from someone who has a bunch of watches and is a little older. No one cares what you are rocking. Women only recognize Rolex and people at work couldn't give a shit.

I concur.

Also it looks like the 'Hats are cut from the same cloth (no pun intended!!)

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/watches-that-piss-people-off

 

I second u buy a 20$ watch.

If you ain't gettin money dat mean you done somethin wrong. " If you have built castles in the air , your work need not be lost; that is where they should be . Now put the foundations under them." - Henry David Thoreau
 

Stop being a spoilt showoffy asshole.

If you ain't gettin money dat mean you done somethin wrong. " If you have built castles in the air , your work need not be lost; that is where they should be . Now put the foundations under them." - Henry David Thoreau
 
adapt or die:
BTbanker:
Let him get whatever watch he wants. Why is it your problem how much he spends if he has the money?

Seriously, Hank is being such a baby. So Mad that some people want a high end watch haha.

What else can you expect from the Brits?
 

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