I was a little surprised to hear the majority of new COVID cases in Florida are in the age category of 18 to 35. I guess I should not be surprised given the photos I have been seeing of people at the beaches, etc. Florida probably needs to address these issues before the problem gets worse...
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Honestly, of all the times that Florida has been in the news the last 10 years, this seems like the least crazy thing they've done...
Our governor is a top tier dumbass.
I agree. He is smart dumbass, though. Actions speak loudly and his actions imply that he may not care all that much about the health of the people in your state. Most politicians are self serving human beings.
It's because of hte protests.
I’m originally from Florida.... grew up there before moving elsewhere for my career. I know quite a few people in the age range you mentioned who have tested positive for COVID-19. Most if not all of them have said that their symptoms were very mild, NONE have required hospitalization. I’m not saying that what people are doing in Florida is right.... but I can understand why there is less of a concern about it.
That’s just my own personal anecdote. Will be interesting to see how things play out.
These people can spread the virus to other people who are more vulnerable.
Too bad Florida has an absurd concentration of old people. They don't call it God's Waiting Room for no reason.
No, it isn't. Otherwise, you would have seen huge spikes in places like DC, NYC or Chicago.
I'm not sure why anyone is shocked by this - we all knew it would happen once we opened up. Younger people get it. They very rarely die. The issue is that they might kill older people, like their grandmother, because they have no respect for space or other people's lives. Maybe they want to kill their boss to move up the ladder - who knows.
At this point - I don't know what the option is. We can't lock down forever, we can't wait for a cure or vaccine. We should do what we are effectively doing now - create as safe an environment as we can, encourage those 'at risk' to use alternative methods of buying things, etc. until reasonable and continue on with our lives.
I don't give a shit it it's protests, bars opening, people being idiots, horny people, whatever - it doesn't matter. When you open up - you will have more cases. It's just logic and I don't know why it's a controversial topic. We shut down - helped to manage the initial overload of medical system and now have to manage ourselves accordingly as we move forward.
America utterly failed at stopping the spread through half hearted lockdowns, so the best option at this point is to just wear a fucking mask. All of this anti-mask propaganda, from the top, is just another sign of the idiocy of so many Americans. If only 50% of people wear a mask in public the R value of the virus drops below 1, which means it no longer spreads as a pandemic.
When people go to the store, wear a damn mask. When you go to work, wear a damn mask. When you go to church, wear a damn mask.
This is so absurdly easy and yet Americans refuse to do the bare minimum to help their country, their economy, or their fellow man.
Conservatives are all for other people making sacrifices but get triggered when mildly inconvenienced. Imagine how upset they'd be if they ever experienced real hardship.
I'm in the TriState area. Everyone wears a mask, most likely why the #s are so low.
Curious if you guys think that the spike in cases is pushed by reopening or protesting? or both? Correct me if i'm wrong but it seems that there's a stronger correlation with reopening than protests
You are not incorrect. Protesting still worried me tremendously though when it comes to virus spread.
I think most of us had concerns about the protesting but many of those people wore masks and were outside.
Biggest protests were in NYC. No increase in cases.
FWIW I am 100% for mandatory masks in public spaces nationwide. (I remember how excited I was to hear that masks were effective because they are such an easy solution).
With that said, case count is pretty misleading for comparison purposes. The testing infrastructure is completely different from what it was a few months ago. Not only is there more testing overall, but people who would never have gotten tested are doing so now (namely, people going back to work or being contact traced).
So while the increase in % positive is concerning, the massive drop off in median age of those testing positive - down to 35 from 65 - highlights how different the testing situation is now.
Is your name Donald?
Don’t turn your brain off because of politics. This goes for everyone, both sides, all sides, no sides, whatever.
This is 100% accurate. More testing = more cases...I'm not exactly sure why that is controversial? The more precise statistic to report would be positive rate per test (although I think Florida (or LA, cant remember) did report a spike in this the other day). It is sort of a non-event if week over week tests increase 15% but the positive rate stays flat...that is just an increase in the # of tests given and it is already confirmed that many more people likely have this than suggested given mild / asymptomatic nature of the virus in some people. FWIW, NY has begun reporting the daily positive rate in their slides since about 2 or 3 weeks ago, and they gave you enough data to compute it yourself since March. Even with all of the protests, NYC still hasn't seen an uptick in positive rate % - it was 1-2% right as the riots started and has maintained that level to-date.
On a separate note...I really think its inaccurate to describe the new cases in FL, TX, AZ, etc. as a "second wave" because their lock down period's were brief and I don't think really did anything. It's likely they are still well within their first wave and the testing infrastructure has just caught up with it. Categorizing the spike we're seeing in these areas as a second wave only leads people to think that after this spike it is totally done because a) likely there will be positive vaccine progress by fall/winter and b) the 1917 flu pandemic has two waves which has been popularized as the comparable event in all of this. If I were a betting man (which I am) I'd bet that once this recent spike calms down we will have a relatively uneventful August / September and then as we move into fall (when flu season starts...) we will get an "unforeseen" third wave that will start a cycle of panic again. Although, hopefully we have made good vaccine and other preventative care measure progress by then.
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