If you inherited $30M and just wanted to invest it, what annual return (%) would you hope to achieve?

Thoughts?

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RogerTheAlien

put it all on black

haha so +100% return - I like it 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 
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Eh, probably the boring answer. Standard diversification split after the regulatory stuff is taken care of, taxes, etc. May reach out to my lawyer to cover bases but $30M isn't enough for me to hire external help to manage that money. Guess I'm pretty good at this finance stuff!

But as for deploying it, I'd really just be looking for a stabilized and consistent return which is pretty damn easy to do now - both Schwab money market funds are above 5% alone, T-bonds clearing that as well. That's easily $10-15M right there going in, a no-brainer. Would also hit some small real estate dips, primarily institutional REITs (value-add probably) to lock down some tangible items. Beyond that, would stack it between SP5, LP stakes in smaller groups, and 'spending money' maybe. Would retire on the spot, that's for sure. 

That's my adult answer, anyway. If I thought about it I'm sure I could make some more risky plays that could parlay that $30M (well, post-tax assuming 40% maxing at $13M lifetime exemption) into upper eight or low nine figures. But I'm not a skilled enough investor to do something like that. Would reap the rewards, buy a place in Europe & Colorado and just retire early. Sounds pretty nice right now...

 

Perfect world I would like to see minimum ~10%/yr but not sure how I think about returns in the future as I don't think they'll be comparable to the last 20-30 years. Don't think I would quit my day job just yet because I love what I do (even if the hours are sometimes unholy) and I get to meet a ton of awesome people. But if I were suddenly handed a lump sum of $30m post-tax I'd probably construct something like this: 

  • $4m multi-family real estate in fast growing, no income tax markets like TX, TN, and FL 
  • $3m split between a few different equity indexes (at least $1m into S&P500)
  • $3m blue-chips that I will perpetually option wheel, reinvesting all proceeds + dividends (my fav names are Apple, Google, Amazon, Waste Management, P&G, Goldman/JPM, Visa/Mastercard/Amex, and at least 1 Berkshire A share)
  • $3m to acquire some smaller, lowish-risk businesses that I don't see AI/ML fucking with  (think pawn shops, funeral homes, elder care, high margin compliance-related services, etc.) - would hire managers for these and offer % of profit sharing tied to growth where it makes sense 
  • $2m toward more growthy names that I will also wheel, reinvesting all proceeds (Nvidia, Snowflake, a few others)
  • $2m to allocate to a couple smaller PE/VC/HF folks I've gotten to know over the years
  • $2m high-yield debt
  • $2m to allocate to angel/early-stage investing w/ a 10+ yr time horizon (I can think of half a dozen founders I've come across who I would have killed to be able to write a $250k-$500k check to)
  • $2m small-caps split $1m "moonshots" and $1m value
  • $2m bitcoin
  • $2m to invest in foreign real estate in countries with growing demographics and positive economic development trends (mostly LATAM/South America would be my preference)
  • $1m various treasury/prime-rated bonds
  • $1m to fuck around with and try to found a company or two of my own
  • $500k casino, travel, & fun money
  • $500k down to purchase a plot of land and build a custom house for myself w/ a 2nd separate residence for mom
"If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

All this for a measely extra 1-2%. Be a real hero and start a company with that money. 

Or... Ground up development, make a 300 mill project. 

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Clearly not a financial advisor lol because in what universe does this allocation not even track inflation... I'm not in it to be a hero I'm in it to be rich af and build a dynasty. Betting it all on 1 venture would be borderline retarded (and that's coming from a gambler). I'm making plenty that can be funneled into personal projects/ventures and a $30m banked inheritance means I can immediately get started on my desire for a giant family and have ensured stability. I'm still in my 20s too which means by the time I'm in my 50s if I sustained 10%/yr I'd be worth over half a billion in 30 years w/o adjusting for additional income from PE which over time will scale meaningfully.

"If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

Starting a business with your own money is for chumps. It means your idea isn’t attracting investors. You’re just a hardworking dude whose dream is a profitable UPS route that might pay $200k/year.

 

5 years worth of cash flow in cash/ individual bond ladder. The rest in an individual stock/ etf portfolio (assuming all non-qual $). I'd be happy with 6.5% delivered very tax-efficiently. 

Maybe some PE/ VC if the right opportunity presented itself. I wouldn't want to run a business or add any complexity with RE. Although, I would probably get extremely bored a few years in and have to pick up a project.

 
FlyingBoat

One trip to Vegas, I’d come back with 60M

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