I'd vote for him over anyone but I don't think he enters the race if Hillary's the dem's nominee. Although he'd be a gigantic fix for the shit show that is the modern two party American political system he knows that he'd have a high percentage chance if it was Bernie v Trump but if it's Hillary v Rubio the odds get long.
I would vote for Hillary Clinton over that unmitigated jackass, Michael Bloomberg. The only candidate I wouldn't vote for over Bloomberg is Bernie Sanders.
Interesting comments and opinions above. When I read that he could be running, I immediately assumed ( and got excited) that he was going to be running on the Democrat ticket because Hilary is so weak.........since he's looking for an independent run, I don't think he has a chance. I think there's a strong appetite in the Dem field for a Hillary alternative and a lot of deflation once Biden decided he wouldn't do it.
Would Americans really vote a Jewish Person as President? This coming from a Jewish person.
America voted for a guy with the name Barack Hussein Obama 5 years after deposing a guy named Saddam Hussein. I'm pretty sure we could vote for a Jewish guy. I pray that the Jewish guy isn't the insufferable jackass, Michael Bloomberg.
Would Americans really vote a Jewish Person as President? This coming from a Jewish person.
Maybe I'm just reading the landscape wrong, but I think they would. I can hear my girlfriend's southern evangelical extended family justifying it now.
"Jesus was a jew too, you know," "They might have killed Jesus, but at least they ain't Muslim terrorists," etc.
Who knows though. Her grandma cried when I said I was raised Catholic. Didn't have the heart to tell her I (and her granddaughter) don't go to church. It's a different world down here.
OP, isn't there some AUS election you should be hyper focusing on?
Discuss
Last election, we voted in some Christian evangelical nutcase as Prime Minister. Needless to say, he was swiftly ousted before the end of his term and replaced by an ex-Goldman MD. Since then, everything has been going smoothly. I'm sure WSO would approve.
adapt or die:OP, isn't there some AUS election you should be hyper focusing on?Discuss
Last election, we voted in some Christian evangelical nutcase as Prime Minister. Needless to say, he was swiftly ousted before the end of his term and replaced by an ex-Goldman MD. Since then, everything has been going smoothly. I'm sure WSO would approve.
In the context of Australian politics, that "evangelical nutcase" was about 10 times more rational than his counterparts on the Australian left.
If Trump and Sanders become the nominees in their respective parties, I think there is a viable path for a third-party candidate to at least force a 12 amendment election in the House.
Bloomberg would likely have difficulty in southern and lower-midwestern states. But he doesn't win the election by carrying the south. He wins the election by carrying states like NY, PA, NJ, OH, MI and IL in the face of a Sanders nomination. Those states alone are worth 104 electoral votes. It's likely that this would be enough to prevent any candidate from receiving the 270 electoral votes necessary for a majority, which would require the House to convene a single delegate from each state to choose the president from the top-three candidates. At that point, it is anyone's guess as to how these state delegations vote, and it's possible they caucus around the most moderate candidate, which would be Bloomberg given a Sanders/Trump scenario.
I obviously don't think this is likely to happen, but it has a better chance than at any point in probably the last 100 years, given how polarizing politics are today.
If Trump and Sanders become the nominees in their respective parties, I think there is a viable path for a third-party candidate to at least force a 12 amendment election in the House.
Bloomberg would likely have difficulty in southern and lower-midwestern states. But he doesn't win the election by carrying the south. He wins the election by carrying states like NY, PA, NJ, OH, MI and IL in the face of a Sanders nomination. Those states alone are worth 104 electoral votes. It's likely that this would be enough to prevent any candidate from receiving the 270 electoral votes necessary for a majority, which would require the House to convene a single delegate from each state to choose the president from the top-three candidates. At that point, it is anyone's guess as to how these state delegations vote, and it's possible they caucus around the most moderate candidate, which would be Bloomberg given a Sanders/Trump scenario.
I obviously don't think this is likely to happen, but it has a better chance than at any point in probably the last 100 years, given how polarizing politics are today.
The x-factor in your scenario is gun rights. Ironically, Sanders has been very friendly to gun rights and Michael Bloomberg has a view on guns akin to an 18th century monarch. States similar to Pennsylvania could easily swing to Sanders in a scenario where he was going up against Bloomberg.
"The x-factor in your scenario is gun rights. Ironically, Sanders has been very friendly to gun rights and Michael Bloomberg has a view on guns akin to an 18th century monarch. States similar to Pennsylvania could easily swing to Sanders in a scenario where he was going up against Bloomberg"
This is true, and essentially disqualifies him from taking any of the southern states. However, this is where his status as a non-ideologue can help him-- he can easily walk back his stance on guns, saying that he only took a hard stance because it was best for NYC at the time. He won't have to get raked over the coals in a primary race with ideologues, who use issues such as gun rights or abortion as loyalty tests as to who’s a “true conservative” (or “true liberal”).
Romney didn’t really have this opportunity vis-à-vis healthcare in 2012: he had to completely denounce Obamacare despite passing similar legislation as the governor of Massachusetts. This made him seem disingenuous among independent voters.
Bloomberg can say that he supports “common sense” gun control (a loaded term of course) but won’t apply NYC’s restrictive measures to the rest of the country.
I also disagree that PA democrats will support Sanders under any scenario. I see the blue-dog democrats that exists in places like PA as voting for Trump over Sanders, given his stance on free-trade. Once Trump goes around to these old factory towns in PA and Ohio talking about how politcians sold them out to Mexico and China, I don't think a guy like Sanders has a chance. I think this is what gives Bloomberg such an advantage in the aforementioned states; the democrats here are very different than the progressives who support Sanders, and he will have a major contrast to Trump.
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I think it's unlikely he will actually run. However, if he did, I would vote for him.
Yep, I'll believe it when I see it but I would definitely vote for him before Trump.
I just don't want to vote for Trump if I don't have to.
He's a bit too paternalistic for my tastes, but I probably would too. He's a better choice than Hillary, Bernie, Trump, or Cruz.
I'd vote for him over anyone but I don't think he enters the race if Hillary's the dem's nominee. Although he'd be a gigantic fix for the shit show that is the modern two party American political system he knows that he'd have a high percentage chance if it was Bernie v Trump but if it's Hillary v Rubio the odds get long.
Why are we ignoring the elephant in the room? Even if he runs, he doesn't have a chance in hell running on the independent card.
Considering the field, he'd have my vote. Still waiting on Romney..
sniff I miss him
I would vote for Hillary Clinton over that unmitigated jackass, Michael Bloomberg. The only candidate I wouldn't vote for over Bloomberg is Bernie Sanders.
Interesting comments and opinions above. When I read that he could be running, I immediately assumed ( and got excited) that he was going to be running on the Democrat ticket because Hilary is so weak.........since he's looking for an independent run, I don't think he has a chance. I think there's a strong appetite in the Dem field for a Hillary alternative and a lot of deflation once Biden decided he wouldn't do it.
I hope so. The only votes he would be getting would split the democratic vote.
Would Americans really vote a Jewish Person as President? This coming from a Jewish person.
America voted for a guy with the name Barack Hussein Obama 5 years after deposing a guy named Saddam Hussein. I'm pretty sure we could vote for a Jewish guy. I pray that the Jewish guy isn't the insufferable jackass, Michael Bloomberg.
Maybe I'm just reading the landscape wrong, but I think they would. I can hear my girlfriend's southern evangelical extended family justifying it now.
"Jesus was a jew too, you know," "They might have killed Jesus, but at least they ain't Muslim terrorists," etc.
Who knows though. Her grandma cried when I said I was raised Catholic. Didn't have the heart to tell her I (and her granddaughter) don't go to church. It's a different world down here.
OP, isn't there some AUS election you should be hyper focusing on?
Discuss
Last election, we voted in some Christian evangelical nutcase as Prime Minister. Needless to say, he was swiftly ousted before the end of his term and replaced by an ex-Goldman MD. Since then, everything has been going smoothly. I'm sure WSO would approve.
In the context of Australian politics, that "evangelical nutcase" was about 10 times more rational than his counterparts on the Australian left.
If Trump and Sanders become the nominees in their respective parties, I think there is a viable path for a third-party candidate to at least force a 12 amendment election in the House.
Bloomberg would likely have difficulty in southern and lower-midwestern states. But he doesn't win the election by carrying the south. He wins the election by carrying states like NY, PA, NJ, OH, MI and IL in the face of a Sanders nomination. Those states alone are worth 104 electoral votes. It's likely that this would be enough to prevent any candidate from receiving the 270 electoral votes necessary for a majority, which would require the House to convene a single delegate from each state to choose the president from the top-three candidates. At that point, it is anyone's guess as to how these state delegations vote, and it's possible they caucus around the most moderate candidate, which would be Bloomberg given a Sanders/Trump scenario.
I obviously don't think this is likely to happen, but it has a better chance than at any point in probably the last 100 years, given how polarizing politics are today.
The x-factor in your scenario is gun rights. Ironically, Sanders has been very friendly to gun rights and Michael Bloomberg has a view on guns akin to an 18th century monarch. States similar to Pennsylvania could easily swing to Sanders in a scenario where he was going up against Bloomberg.
"The x-factor in your scenario is gun rights. Ironically, Sanders has been very friendly to gun rights and Michael Bloomberg has a view on guns akin to an 18th century monarch. States similar to Pennsylvania could easily swing to Sanders in a scenario where he was going up against Bloomberg"
This is true, and essentially disqualifies him from taking any of the southern states. However, this is where his status as a non-ideologue can help him-- he can easily walk back his stance on guns, saying that he only took a hard stance because it was best for NYC at the time. He won't have to get raked over the coals in a primary race with ideologues, who use issues such as gun rights or abortion as loyalty tests as to who’s a “true conservative” (or “true liberal”).
Romney didn’t really have this opportunity vis-à-vis healthcare in 2012: he had to completely denounce Obamacare despite passing similar legislation as the governor of Massachusetts. This made him seem disingenuous among independent voters.
Bloomberg can say that he supports “common sense” gun control (a loaded term of course) but won’t apply NYC’s restrictive measures to the rest of the country.
I also disagree that PA democrats will support Sanders under any scenario. I see the blue-dog democrats that exists in places like PA as voting for Trump over Sanders, given his stance on free-trade. Once Trump goes around to these old factory towns in PA and Ohio talking about how politcians sold them out to Mexico and China, I don't think a guy like Sanders has a chance. I think this is what gives Bloomberg such an advantage in the aforementioned states; the democrats here are very different than the progressives who support Sanders, and he will have a major contrast to Trump.
Bloomberg for president (Originally Posted: 08/07/2007)
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Only If He Promises To Move The White House To Wall St.
highly unlikely, and therefore an irrelevant topic of discussion
There's a good chance that he'll run as an independent, but he has no chance of winning.
its actullay not irrelevant at all as his running would inevitably have a significant impact on the election in a "two party system"
its highly unlikely that you will ever get laid but you still talk about going to Stereo every weekend and finding talent...
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