Pretending to be gay
Alright obviously on a moral standpoint this is incredibly low, but honestly, what is stopping someone from pretending to be gay / identifying as a different gender for diversity purposes?
It’s not like you get a certificate of gayness if your gay - as long as you don’t openly lust about the opposite sex, surely you could get away with it?
Some programs (e.g Jane Street’s ‘Insight’ program) have restrictions. Can you not lie and get around them pretty easily?
You can just be ‘exploring’
First, it's not as big of a help as you'd think. Second, it would become obvious very quickly if you were faking it. Trust me on that.
Theoretically, given that my grandmother's maiden name translates from italian as 'of the moors' I can claim to be of African descent. I don't look it. I'd be obviously full of BS and get flagged so early in the process that I wouldn't make it to later interviews as a "black candidate." Even if you do land a job, people will figure it out, and expect massive shit at work and denied promotions as a known liar.
I think it would work if the person doing it were sufficiently shameless about it. The label describes the feelings the person has towards others. It's not necessary that they be in a same-sex marriage and provide their spouse's personal info to HR. There is no way the employer could prove that they're lying about their internal orientation. Any attempt to do so would be a sexual harassment lawsuit waiting to happen.
I wouldn't say it's the path to a stable, decades-long career with the company and a path to becoming CEO. But I do think that there is no practical way that the company could push back without putting themselves in legal jeopardy.
In general, a lot of diversity stuff kind of works on the honor system.
There's a lot beyond legal retribution. You're in a group of four, let's say it's an Asian, a Hispanic or middle easterner and two white guys. You're a known, or strongly suspected liar (remember, you're doing 60hr/wk with these guys) and they pick maybe 2 for promotion. You have no grounds to stand on for not being promoted. You many get in, but it's not a get out of jail free card, and may be a black mark for layoffs if somebody fels comfortable enough about their diversity score. Enjoy being a first-year for the next five.
I play my sexuality close to the chest. the biggest break I got was for being Catholic, and having gone to "good Catholic schools" beyond my charter.
Does diversity recruiting work if you're authentic? Is it not a joke? I'm actually gay and have a poor gpa from a state school. Wondering how far I can go with UMM/MF PE & PC if I play the gay card to the maximum.
You're forgetting the wildcard here. That someone like a white Irish Catholic can legitimately and literally go get a "race card" to throw down that they're native American to make HR and everyone else sit and spin, as they say.
Reminds me of a guy I went to law school with, he is 1/16th Native American and 15/16th generic white person. Dude grew up in and affluent suburb of DC and has never struggled a day in his life. He now works at a real estate fund now and the first line of his bio is that he is a proud Native American.
I literally tick every single diversity box.You can't question this stuff in the UK, whereas in the US you have little to no employment rights
Go for it. If you're ready to have your professional reputation absolutely destroyed the moment it comes out that you lied, then more power to you.
If you are willing to put in the effort to keep your private life entirely secret for years or decades so that no one realizes you lied about your sexual identity, then you probably would have been successful in life without lying. It just doesn't make sense, you don't get much an advantage out of the lie and the downside is enormous.
Yeah haha don’t worry I wasn’t planning on it, just felt a bit butthurt about not being able to apply to the JS Insight Program.
I'd take precaution. Recall the Diversity is Paradise post... usually if you're gay you will be called to gay diversity meetings and, oh well, there goes your privacy
This just... isn't how it works. You don't get forced to go to LGBTQ meetings if you identify as gay. You sound like someone who has never met a gay person, set foot in a professional office space, or really had any experience of the real world that wasn't an internet post.
Once again Bichads can't stop winning
Obviously there is no "certificate of gayness", it is actually much worse:
Before you lie about this, consider what it might be like to actually live that experience that you are so callously passing off as your own. Please be an ally to your (likely few and far between) LGBTQ+ colleagues who are out. Attend the Pride/LGBTQ+ group meetings. Support any charitable work that group is doing for LGBTQ+ youth. Put your pronouns in your email signature.
Read more here about the LGBTQ+ experience:
Specific discussion about depression and suicide in LGBTQ+ youth -> https://www.thetrevorproject.org/research-briefs/bullying-and-suicide-risk-among-lgbtq-youth/
Survey of 34,000 LGBTQ+ youth (not a lot of text, worth the click) -> https://www.thetrevorproject.org/survey-2022/
*****If you are considering that you might not be straight and using this application to try out a label, I'm happy you are considering exploring your sexuality in this way! I'm proud of you! Comp het is some really sticky shit.
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