Help Me Choose a College Please (specifically headed towards IB and then PE)
This is a list of schools I got into
UMich (Ross)
Northwestern (Econ)
Georgetown (McDonough)
Cornell (Nolan) (Hotel Administration)
Claremont McKenna (Econ)
Emory (Goizueta)
Boston College (Caroll)
IU (Kelley)
But I am specifically trying to decide between my top few choices of Umich, Georgetown, Northwestern, and Cornell.
For Cornell, I could probably transfer into CAS for econ (right?) if that would make a difference.
I am very grateful but would appreciate some guidance!
Thank You!
Strictly regarding financial paths, then UMich without a question. Ross is held to a ridiculously high standard, it's only downside is being located away from northeastern financial hubs such as NY/BOS/DC. Georgetown would be my number two, and all of the rest fall pretty short.
However, I'd really think about if you are purely determining your entire college choice on an immediate IB move. It's always good to have a general sense of what you want to do, but I'd think of your choice more holistically, if possible. No point in hitting an IB offer if you have to suffer four years at a college you hate prior to it. Oh yeah, and that's before hating your life while working in IB too, ha!
Just explore your options. Would try to look holistically a bit.
taking a state school over an ivy is insane
Not going to argue about the merits of that but there are numerous UMich/UVA type students that turn down lower Ivies every year given in-state tuition or business degree vs Econ.
Undergrad Umich over Cornell?? What are you smoking bro 😂
Northwestern is definitely really strong. Cornell is next, and then Ross. (Undergrad).
If you can transfer to the Dyson school at Cornell, then definitely Cornell over NW. Low acceptance rate(sub 4%), Business school with ivy brand, everyone who wants IB/PE/VC generally gets it. Something like 98k a year average salary after graduation.
Avg salary & acceptance rates are irrelevant stats when comparing these schools lol. Ross median salary is => $100K+, comparable to Cornell's Dyson and NW's similar I'm sure for the top students. Better to measure against per capita & fit (i.e, private school, atmosphere, smaller, Greek life, culture etc). If you work hard enough you can get IB at any of these 3 schools, and Ross is #4 undergrad b-schools while Cornell's Dyson is lower lol so "what are you smoking" is a strange reaction tbh.
What about comparing Umich and GT with Cornell CAS or maybe Dyson?
Dyson>GT>Umich. Not sure about cas, but had some friends go there and they did really well. Honestly congratulations with the offers, you can do well in any of the three.
Sorry isn't Northwestern by far the most prestigious here? It's like a t10 and Georgetown is a t20. CMC is obviously an amazing, world class school but the 5Cs are just too small to get that much recognition on the East Coast.
Michigan, Georgetown, and Northwestern should all place great into banking, I would definitely factor in vibes and fit.
Both Ross and McDonough are very well respected programs which the student got in to. Would be different if it was not Ross, just UMich LSA.
To me personally, in this thread overall, there seems to be a disconnect between traditional prestige (T10, Ivy) and banking prestige (undergrad B-school placement into IB). I’ve been struggling with weighing each myself.
Surprised UM is perceived better than Northwestern and an Ivy? OP I was in a similar spot (NW vs UM and wanted IB), and you should 100% go to NW or Cornell. Per capita placement is much better for both schools from what I know. Maybe this has changed so would appreciate tangible feedback but Northwestern all the way (or cornell)
Even if you were to go by per capita then Emory and Georgetown have better capita placement than Northwestern
All of the per capita questions need to take into account that Umich Ross classes are only 550-600 kids and that it’s not the whole school whereas there’s not that many less NW Econ majors (with less placement).
It’s definitely not. Ross is a strong brand, but anyone who claims that a public school with a 20% acceptance rate is better then GT or lower ivies is delusional.
UMich Ross is better in my opinion than Cornell and Gtown if you are looking for a career in investment banking (although I understand it is up to debate). The Ross acceptance rate is far lower (single digits) than the overall school acceptance rate. And if you are basing your choice based on acceptance rate, then that's a bad way to look at things. Also, UMich is far more fun than the other 2 schools.
I made the choice between UMich and Georgetown and picked Georgetown, but I also had no idea what banking or even finance was when I picked my college. I would say between those two, you can't go wrong and will have great chances at IB. For Georgetown, I rarely hear about people completely striking out of recruiting, and from what I've heard, Ross is similar. Can't speak to the other programs, however.
I would urge you to look at the two programs and analyze where you would enjoy yourself more. Career outcomes will be relatively similar, so if you see yourself enjoying one over the other or there is some factor outside of career outcomes you care about, factor this into your decision. You are probably hearing this a lot, so sorry do be repetitive, but college is a place where you can do a ton of exploring, so find the school that lets you explore what you are most interested in.
I think Georgetown, Ross, and Cornell are your top options from an absolute placement perspective but honestly even Northwestern and Emory are great options. If I were being honest and looking at it from an older person's perspective where you go between UMich, Georgetown, Northwestern, Cornell hotel, and Emory won't have too much of an individual impact compared to what you do and how you enjoy your life in college in regards to your outcome. However, in a hair splitting perspective of a high schooler I would go with Ross, Georgetown, or Cornell.
This honestly is the correct answer
As a Cornell student (not in hotel), I think it's a pretty good option to go with. Everyone that wants an IB spot gets it (if you at least follow all the steps), and the hotel school also provides you a backup career in real estate or hospitality as well. You get the Ivy League brand which could go a long way in life - although not as a crutch.If that school/location isn't your thing, then I think UMich or Northwestern would be the next choice. IMO I feel like I see more Umich ppl, but that's probably because their school has more students. Northwestern has a more academic atmosphere and smaller vs Mich, so that's another thing worth considering.Georgetown could also be an interesting spot to land at, but not as strong as the schools I mentioned.
Edit: As for the business vs Econ degree - this doesn’t really matter. Assuming you take your basic finance and accounting classes (which is all you really need) and do the NME stuff in your business clubs, you will be set
I would narrow down the choices to Georgetown/Northwestern/Cornell. Would personally take Georgetown for the combination of solid Wall Street placement, location, good weather, and prestige.
Also thank you everyone for all of these comments! Reading over them has been interesting to see the (quite) different perspectives.
Go to Michigan. This isn't a question. It's incredibly fun, best campus, and Ross is the cream of the crop. I got denied twice from Ross so I am jealous of you.
Seriously. Go.
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