Arbor Realty Trust – Slumlord Millionaires

New short report out by Viceroy:  Arbor Realty Trust – Slumlord Millionaires

Everything that anyone who works closely to the value-add space knew about the quality of Arbor's loan book was just put on blast.  Great reading.  

 

Thanks for sharing this information.  It looks like CLOs are not marking their positions to reality or letting investors know that they are screwed across the board.  Is anyone scruitinizing what they are doing?  The oversight on these securitized debts are clearly flawed.  

It is pretty troublsome.  I don't know if they are in denial, hiding the problems, or just don't understand.

We should make it clear that it isn't just Arbor.  The vast majority of these CLOs and similar lenders are not notifying the market of the major losses the debt investors are about to incur.  I wouldn't own a AAA piece of one of these CLOs.

 

Someone posted something about the Arbor Buffalo office.  Did something happen there?

 

What's the word there?  Would love to know...  The ish could hit the fan very quickly for Arbor if they don't have a strong rebuttal ready.

 

Every CLO has a trustee that goes through the portfolio from a ratings perspective. This is done quarterly - it is for the benefit of each tranche - I am sure positions have been marked and equity or "junior" tranches interest / cash flow has been diverted. Once some of these tests are failed, like an OC test or interest coverage test, then depending on who the agent is of that loan that is now in workout or "distressed" gets handled. 

 

I saw that fitch released a report saying that arbor is in good shape, which is completely false. Are the clo and cmbs implosions going to bring down the rating agencies? The ratings are completely worthless but so many investors believe them and it is going to cause massive losses.

 
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I've been reading through recent Fitch/Moody/DBRS Morningstar ratings updates & surveillance reports.  On the several I've dug into, has been zero change in any of the bond ratings or the implied strength of the collateral. I told my wife the other day "it feels like that scene in The Big Short where Martin Baum is flabbergasted at what the S&P employee is saying".  Would be comical if it wasn't so fucked up, but (unfortunately) history has a way of repeating itself.  

Starting digging into their rating "methodologies" for CLO's and the fact they essentially say "our ratings assume diversified product base, geographical concentrations, and sponsorship" is ridiculous.  There are MF1 pools for instance with nearly 20% Tides exposure alone, and when you add in Rise/ZMR/etc, some of these pools are ~50%+ shitty sunbelt Class B/C garden product with a small handful of sponsors. 

Also for anyone who read the Viceroy report, they just issued an update based on November servicer reports.  Delinquencies are ticking up very quickly, with one of Arbor's 2021-vintage pools at nearly 30%, up from ~18.5% in October.  Most of these are <30 days delinquent, but the writing is on the wall for these 2024 maturities and cash flow continues to erode...

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It is scary how similar everything is to the gfc right now. I am glad that it is tied more to commercial loans and the housing market stayed with long term fixed rate loans. Home prices will go down a lot but people’s mortgages are locked in at great rates, so that will insulate the pain. Air bnb, flippers, and people that need to relocate because of layoffs will have a hard time though. I feel bad for the people that get laid off and lose their house do to that. Seeing hard working people lose their houses is very sad.

 
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I saw that fitch released a report saying that arbor is in good shape, which is completely false. Are the clo and cmbs implosions going to bring down the rating agencies? The ratings are completely worthless but so many investors believe them and it is going to cause massive losses.

Did we not learn anything last cycle

The rating agencies are truly AWFUL

 

The rating agencies and the institutions that rely on them learned nothing.

I don’t think I will ever trust a bond rating again. You have to dig into them to understand the risk. The current way things are rated should be shut down for the benefit of entire world. The SEC needs to really scrutinize what the rating agencies are doing.

 

Its already one of the most shorted stocks out there.  I think something like 30%+ of the shares are currently sold short.

 

It would be interesting to compare the other highly levered investment shops quarterly updates to see when and if they start admitting to investors that their properties are in trouble?

It would also be interesting to line those letters up to their major debt providers to see if they start admitting to the fact that they will be taking back properties and losing money.

If anyone can share info, it would be appreciated.

 

Arbor has decreased 20% in the last few weeks.

Has something come out that is causing it to drop?

The viceroy stuff has been out for a while, so I would be surprised if that is causing the drop.

 

Ummmm JPM Securities lowered their TP to $17 and I know a lot of earnings calls have happened. I think they recently had theirs and I'd assume its some fall out from that downgrade plus earnings call. Also if their dividend post date has passed, smaller px equities see some offloading after funds sell off once they are able to get the record date of the dividend. 

 

Arbor has decreased 20% in the last few weeks.

Has something come out that is causing it to drop?

The viceroy stuff has been out for a while, so I would be surprised if that is causing the drop.

Powell was pretty cagey with when rate cuts were going to be a the market is thinking March isn't a sure thing anymore.

 

Arbor must be using accounting gymnastics/mods to avoid the Big D word- Delinquency.

It isn't logical that they lent at 85%+ LTV non-recourse, on Sunbelt 4 caps, to first-time syndicators, (occasionally without even requiring rate caps), and they have little to no delinquency. Especially at a time with a declining macro climate for many MF markets, there's no way I'm buying the story they are telling.

 

What is the TREPP data saying about these guys for February?  

It will be interesting to see if they moved a bunch of the delinquent loans out of their CLOs, so people cannot track their bad loans. 

Or maybe they are drawing down on the interest rate reserve.  They dropped a $100m in their restricted cash in 2023.  Is that them using that money to service the borrowers' debt?

 

What is the TREPP data saying about these guys for February?  

It will be interesting to see if they moved a bunch of the delinquent loans out of their CLOs, so people cannot track their bad loans. 

Or maybe they are drawing down on the interest rate reserve.  They dropped a $100m in their restricted cash in 2023.  Is that them using that money to service the borrowers' debt?

I've heard of them reallocating capex draws to cover debt service as part of a modification. Viola! The loan is now current!

 

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