Currently at a small (~$3B AUM) shop in the Mid-Atlantic doing AM/some capital markets stuff. 1.5 YOE. Desperately trying to build connections in the REPE space by me. MM guys will almost always take a quick call or even a coffee/lunch, but these megafund guys never respond.
Obviously I know how annoying it must be to be at a prestigious shop and get harassed by mouth breathers fiending for an internship, but I feel like I can easily speak their language and provide some value to a conversation by talking about what my fund is doing. There must be some secret sauce to this I'm missing.
I'm so eager to get into a firm like Carlyle or Starwood, and I know my experience is light, so I'm willing to wait a year or two to build that up. I'm just struggling to connect with those that work there now so that when it's time to apply, I'll have those relationships.
Any help/guidance would be appreciated here. I feel like I'm so out of the loop on this kind of stuff.
Not sure how to do this, but I'm sure these people have their food spots, and probably go to some gym/golf/workout/running/yoga/pilates group, maybe even real estate conferences/clubs, or any hobby in general. Some of these things probably cost a bit to get in, but you will probably have a higher probability of meeting them. Lots of bets to make, so not sure of the validity of this strategy.
Excellent idea. Stalk out the Carlyle analyst to find out where he works out and then approach them in the gym in the morning as they are stepping out of the shower. Maybe you’ll get an internship offer (without option to return full time, of course) if you offer drink the analyst 1’s bath water ?
Build relationships with people who do business with them and eventually ask for an introduction. You want to know the extroverted junior level people at these companies. If you’re in a capital markets role, I’d imagine there are several external Lending people who know people at the companies you’re interested in. Make friends and meet their friends. Coming from a guy who worked at one of those firms.
Edit: this does not mean to compromise on authenticity or treat relationships poorly. It’s the opposite. Make genuine reciprocal business relationships, and your friends will naturally go to bat for you.
It will be quite easy to identify the Starwood or other megafund guys in the gym. Just go out in the gym floor and look for the guy struggling to bench a plate on each side.
Ask them how to gain free prestige levels
Stop putting people on a pedestal because of their job.
this is the gayest post I’ve ever read
I can intro you for $100/intro lol
Why do you want to get into carlyle and starwood so much? Do you hate your life and relationships that much?
Do you think you'll sleep with supermodels when you whisper in their ear that you work for starwood? Or that you'll gain adoration and respect from people - assuming everyone else looks up to starwood like you? (ps they don't)
Unpopular opinion but wtf - there’s nothing wrong with wanting to be at a mega fund. The smartest and most hard working friends I have (in real estate) work at BX, Starwood and the like. They get great experience and, believe it or not, do enjoy the work. It’s fine to respect them and not want to be them. Some people would rather work 90 hrs a week and maximize comp than go drunk golfing with buddies after work. It’s crazy that people can’t at least respect the hustle.
Best way to meet people is through friends. If you have no friends, get some. Fellow alumni should also be pretty receptive.
spoken to you by someone who has certainly never even experienced a 60 hour week
Can’t know what you can or can’t handle until you try.
Coming from someone very familiar with the 70-90+ hr lifestyle.
Leave us alone.
We know you just want a job and don't give two shits about us.
I literally had someone stalk my insta when it was public and comment how pretty the girl in my story was.
Nice try but you don’t get girls bro. No random slid into your DMs to tell you a girl was pretty.
If projection was a post. It would be yours.
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