ESCP MiM vs MSc Commodity Trading (University of Geneva) – career advice
Hi everyone,
I would really appreciate some advice as I’m currently trying to decide between two very different paths.
I’ve been admitted to:
• ESCP Master in Management
• MSc in Commodity Trading at the University of Geneva
At the same time I’m still waiting for results from ESSEC (MiM and MiF), Bocconi MSc Finance (AFM), ESCP MiF and HEC MiM.
My main interest is financial markets and trading. Over the past few years I’ve been actively managing a personal portfolio and working on quantitative trading research.
Because of that, one option would be the more traditional finance route: MiM/MiF at schools like ESCP, ESSEC, HEC or Bocconi and then targeting roles in global markets, sales & trading, asset management or possibly investment banking.
The alternative would be the MSc in Commodity Trading at the University of Geneva, which is a very industry-focused program. Students work during the week in a trading company and attend classes on Fridays and Saturdays.
I’ve already been admitted but I would need to secure a traineeship in a commodity trading company before the end of August to actually enroll.
My question is mainly about long-term career optionality:
• Is the Geneva MSc in Commodity Trading well regarded within the commodity trading industry?
• Does it make sense to specialize that early?
• Or would a MiM/MiF from ESCP/ESSEC/HEC/Bocconi be a safer option in terms of career flexibility?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Would love to hear from anyone working in commodity trading or global markets.
Wait for much better programs like ESSEC MiM, HEC MiM or Bocconi MiF. They are much better than the two you mention!
Thanks boib_1! I know they are better programs you're right, I wait their outcomes too. I was just thinking that to lend a job, in the future, like commodity related in Geneva is still better doing this program. But is so specific
Don't listen to this kid. Look at his past comments, he's butthurt he wasn't accepted there so he's shitting on ESCP. The MiM is a great program and very well ranked.
What are the outcomes like of the MSc at Geneva?
MiM/MiF at hec/escp/bocconi would be the classic option. They're the target programs at each school and will place well in s&t. Much low risk
Whoever voted Geneva over hec bocconi escp is a real ape lol
Cause I had some friends who are enrolled in this Commodity Ms, and they had beetter acces at those commodity related roles (like Vitol, Trafigura, Louis-Dreyfus ecc). They start as inter, they work from Monday to Thursday and they have lectures on friday and Saturday.
I think to enter in those commodities companies, like first role obv not front desk, is one of the best choice.
Plus in Geneva, so good life, good wages and with London the best two hubs in Europe for Commodity trading (physical and not)
If you're dead set on commodities all the way then Geneva is the best city to be in. If you get a great traineeship then go for this option i think
Hec, escp and bocconi are top tier like others say, but entering commodities specifically will typically take more steps, which can be good if you ever had a bit of doubt in the path you want to take.
Thank you Revama69, I will consider the two careers, perhaps first doing a MIF/MIM and then at most the MS in Geneva in commodities, so applying again later, it will give me more time to understand which branch to go into
I doubt the traineeship will be front office right away. MiM/MiF at hec parigi/escp/bocconi plus the exec master at Geneva might be a good idea down the line if you feel like you need a more solid signal.
Essec placement in markets is weaker than others so avoid
Thanks man,
I thought the ESSEC MIM, with a major in Financial Markets, was better option than an ESCP MiM with the specialisations in IB and Finance.
Aside from the MiF ESCP or MiF ESSEC, where I applied but I think it will be more difficult to be accepted.
ESSEC MiM is much better than the ESCP MiM. Do that if you can :)
The financial markets specialisation and placements are better at escp as far as I know. Didn't go to either school so just speaking from what I've seen in the market.
PGE is very well seen from any of the top 3 though
For anything finance related escp is generally ahead compared to essec since it gives you London access
If you want to do commodities, go do the Geneva degree. It is extremely well regarded and gives you a foot in the door in this industry, which is all that matters.
The combination of pay, taxes, and quality of life is also unparalleled, although the city is way more boring. Nothing a few origination trips to Africa or Latin American can't fix though.
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