Insight needed about City College, London (Bayes Business School)
Just received my first offer today to study finance at Bayes Business School, formerly known as Cass. This is the first offer I've received so far from the UK and I'm currently awaiting replies from UCL, Durham, St Andrews, and Edinburgh (all for Finance).
Out of curiosity, what is WSO's consenus on Bayes? Is it a semi-target? and in general, how well does it place in IB compared to schools such as Queen Mary?
I'm now starting to entertain the idea of attending uni in London so if anybody here has studied at Bayes or knows the market well please feel free to give me any advice/info/insight whatsoever!
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I can give some insight into this. I just graduated from Bayes and I also had an offer from UCL for undergrad. I'm assuming you're applying for a masters (as UCL don't have an undergrad course in finance).
The star degrees at Bayes for undergrad are Banking and international finance (which I studied) and a masters in finance. Reputation wise UCL is still ahead of Bayes for undergrad, but not for a masters in finance as the course is new at UCL. From my course at undergrad, here is where my some of my friends ended up. Equity trader at RBC, Asset management at UBS (real estate), Asset management at Goldman, IBD Morgan Stanley, fx trader at HSBC, IBD at Citi bank (2), Investment analyst at (PCM) private equity firm, IBD at Deutsche and Trainee IBD at Societe general.
Now this is where many people on this forum get it wrong with Bayes/Cass. The business school itself is really small relative to other semi targets like durham, kings, bristol. My course only had 40-45 people on it, so naturally you wouldn't see many people at ACs/Internships from Bayes. The advantage that bayes has over the other universities listed, is its London location and its network. There are some private equity/asset management /finance firms that provide exclusive internships to bayes students only (acropolis capital, Ardian, RWA, brown brothers harriman etc)
Now from what I know, Bayes/Cass is a lot better at postgrad than undergrad, so if I were you I'd probably pick bayes as its more established. Sure Bayes is not oxbridge, but its still a top business school and the numbers show that. I personally enjoyed bayes and the university was really helpful in terms of the resources it provided and just general help. The only negative that comes to mind is that the business school (at least for undergrad) is very international (80+% international) and they generally don't mix in with the uk students.
P.s. Queen Marys isn't in the same league as Bayes for grad positions
Thank you so much for the info! Apologies for not being clear enough in my post but I am applying as an undergrad. I've gotten an offer from Bayes Finance and applied for management science at UCL (a rather new course I believe and probably also a lot of internationals). I personally have a lot of friends studying around the London area so I'm not to concerned about the large percentage of internationals. However, I can imagine that a lot of them tend to group together and not attempt to integrate with the UK students which is a shame.
Would you say that it's a positive thing that the Bayes classes are small? I believe that I read online that there are only 50 students in my course. I would imagine that there would be less competition to break into certain Finance roles compared to Uni's such as UCL because of this.
what r ur grades?
Currently attending high school in Scandinavia and my grades are solid, predicted 19/20.
Would be closer to 20/20 but my grades took a hit my first year as I was transitioning from the English curriculum to my national system.
Anyhow, I meet the entry requirement for all the courses I've applied to but I dont go above and beyond them if that makes sense.
not considered a top uni in the UK, in london alone viewed as lesser than imperial/lse/ucl/kcl. havent met anyone from cass in my bank. of the unis you listed have met the most from ucl/durham. st A's and edinburgh are viewed well tho as the top 2 scottish unis.
UCL and don't look back. Cass has never really had a strong reputation at both PG/UG and the only people I've ever seen at good shops out of their PG had target or semi-target UG and just went to Cass to buy time/get distinctions. To the other posters point, CASS does NOT have a stronger reputation in finance than UCL at either UG or Msc level. What it does have, is a student body with hardo-levels of career orientation which gets some PGs/UGs decent placements through sheer force of will. I saw no one from Cass at my IBD AC (BSB/MM) and I frankly believe it doesn't possess a lot of brand power. The recent name change doesn't help things either.
The only university on your list that could potentially turn heads a) within AND outside finance and b) if you ever LEAVE the UK, is UCL. Management science is fine; places well from what I see on LinkedIn. If you get great grades and don't mind wasting a year, you could also consider reapplying to OX/LSE while at UCL, as opposed to taking a gap year.
Thank you! I appreciate your response. I'm hoping for UCL but incase things don't work out, what do you believe would be the second best option considering my list?
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