MSF: UT, Georgetown, or UVA ?
What is the best out of these 3 in terms of general job outcomes? I'm really interested in project finance & PUI industry/banking but I have ER and REPE internships (both no-name fyi) and will take the best job I can get.
I'm also from a small state school with literally no one in such roles, and a CS major, so looking for the biggest and most responsive network.
UT Austin:
- 10 months
- smallest class size
- avg base salary 80k+ (I think this is great for a first job in texas)
- 60% job offer by graduation, 95% w/in 6 months after
- Many come from UT UG. Worried that skewed the report (cuz I come from nowhere)
- Very strong pull in Texas/energy; OTOH, I'd have to commit to there as the vast majority stay in TX (I like Texas especially for early career but prob not forever)
- Seems like the most friendly/cultured school; staff/alumni seem responsive. Does this hold true?
- People seem to place into jobs at Texas-based shops that can be used to transition later (valuations, b4 / a&m, credit, RE, rare CIB)
- built for people like me who did not study finance
- idk if I can handle the heat, literally, I've never lived far from home (i'm from the northeast)
Virginia (Commerce):
- like UT, 10 months and all non-business undergrads
- it's actually M.S. Commerce (McIntire) with a Finance concentration, so a some courses are general business :/ Also the electives are softballs "Python for business" "project mgmt" and I did a whole CS degree
- avg base salary for Finance conc is 95k - again, worried this is skewed by the UVA 4+1 s
- for the life of me, I cannot find alumni who did the Finance track. I saw like 2 but they were in FP&A and business analytics. The IB came from UVA and just needed another year it seems.
- does the Integrated Core Experience and case-based, teamwork class structure
- mandatory global consulting trip which I fear is a cash grab
Georgetown:
- 2 yrs (a pro and a con)
- large af class (200+), most stay online - this worries me bc I want to build connections and for it to feel like a real school
- Room for internships but how does networking work in such a program? Does it have a good rep, do people respond?
- people say the classwork actually teaches you new things and is rigorous
- lack of selectivity + lot of experienced students muddles career outcomes so IDK what is possible for me thru this program
- If I go: should I move to DC (I live ~70 mins away from NYC) or do it online?
Rn I'm leaning toward UT bc it seems the most transparent and the respect it has in TX/energy makes the program punch above its weight there. But I can't tell for sure. I also want to go to the best business school possible to counteract my unknown UG.
BTW, I got into Rochester as well, but not sure if I should consider it.
If you know anyone who has done these programs, let me know what they're really like!
Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's a breakdown of your options and how they align with your goals in project finance, PUI industry/banking, and leveraging a strong alumni network:
UT Austin (McCombs)
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Verdict: If you're okay with starting in Texas and leveraging the energy/project finance opportunities there, UT Austin is a fantastic choice. Its alumni network and placement stats make it a strong contender.
UVA (McIntire - M.S. Commerce)
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Verdict: While UVA has a strong brand, the program's lack of a clear finance focus and limited alumni outcomes in your target fields make it less compelling compared to UT Austin.
Georgetown (MSF)
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Verdict: Georgetown's MSF is a solid program, but its large class size, mixed outcomes, and potential networking challenges make it less appealing compared to UT Austin for your specific goals.
Rochester (Simon)
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Verdict: Rochester is a decent option, but it doesn't offer the same level of opportunities or network strength as UT Austin.
Final Recommendation
Top Choice: UT Austin (McCombs)
It offers the best combination of strong job outcomes, a responsive alumni network, and a focus on energy/project finance, which aligns with your goals. While it has a regional focus, starting in Texas could provide a solid foundation for transitioning to other markets later.
Runner-Up: UVA (McIntire)
If you're drawn to the UVA brand and case-based learning, it could be a good option, but the lack of finance-specific focus and unclear alumni outcomes are concerns.
Avoid: Georgetown and Rochester, as they don't align as well with your goals and priorities.
If you have further questions or need help deciding, feel free to ask!
Sources: MSF Class of 2019, MSF Class of 2019, MSF or MBA for my experience level?, Is Networking Better Than Doing A MSF Program?, MSF Question and Answer
Anyone want to give their opinion? The bot just summarized what I wrote..
Bumping
i am at georgetown and can try to answer some questions you have
thank you so much. I have a bunch:
Firstly, what are your goals & background? What were your other options & why'd you choose Georgetown? Are you ft/pt, online/in-person?
How much does career services help vs. your own initiative? What career prep services are there?
How responsive are Georgetown alumni? Does the Georgetown name really help or do people recognize the program is not selective? Do you feel valued at the school?
What is class/networking like since most ppl are online?
Do people generally get the job they want? What kind of roles are typical?
Is there anything that surprised you about the program once you enrolled? Any regrets you have? Anything essential for a prospective student to know?
gonna be detailed, so i'm going to break it into many chunks.
hope this helps! good luck with results! happy to answer follow up questions to my best ability, especially if you want to share what industry you want to pursue.
i just saw your career interests in the post. i'd say it's definitely feasible if you end up at georgetown. take advantage of the clubs if you go here (GUGIF, re/infra finance clubs, etc) and any MBA classes as electives.
georgetown is also a strong name for gov sector (or adjacent) internships, with a lot of them during fall/spring semester. georgetown msb can also help you find internships with congress reps. definitely take advantage of that if you find something PUI related.
i agree, bump
what part do you agree with?
From an outside perspective, Georgetown.
out of curiosity, is this based more on the overall school's reputation or my bullet points?
Not even reputation from a total placements perspective. For everything including IB PE HF VC Georgetown gets you looks. Sure you're not as "prestigious" as a Duke/Yale, but you place just as good for the most part. Look at Blackstone, GS, MS, EVR (40 smth ppl there). You'll be fine...
I just accepted my georgetown MSF. The safety was applying to Baruch but that would be a pretty risky MSF role . Everyone I've met has spoken postively about it. I'm considering leaving my job to go full time. But they told me I would be pretty bored if I did leave my job to go full time. the work load is approx 10-15 a week. 15-20 for the harder classes in year 2.
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