2018 FT/Off-cycle London Recruiting Timeline Megathread

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UPDATED AS OF 10/01/2018

Title says it all - the 2018 FT IB mainly covers the US schools so I thought I'd start one for London ones.

BBs:
Goldman: Closed (apparently had to attend an August networking invite, apparently offers are out NEW: IBD sent out Hire vues a few weeks ago)
JPM: Open - received email saying that my application was under consideration now lol
MS: Closed (early bird closed 31st July 2017, someone has said that recruiting is over, OFF-CYCLE/SA News: Seems like last AC is this Sat, if they don't find enough candidates, they'll open another one)
DB: Open, someone has an offer
CS: Closed - apps have been reviewed (but post submission it says that they'll only review in November???)
UBS: Open (rejected for FT post video interview already)
Barclays: Full, but apparently opened their FT apps (rejected for FT post second online test already)
Citi: Open (someone's been rejected for Off-cycle already, already interviewing for FT (IBD and CMO (AC)) and off-cycle NEW (CMO's done, IBD apps still under consideration but head count is mid-high single digits)

Wells Fargo: M&A analyst was available but now it's gone

EBs:
Moelis: Open (Online tests handed out), First Rounds 20th Oct, Final Rounds week of 30th Oct
Evercore: Closed (networking invites sent, networking rejections sent as well (28 September 2017), phone interviews are out, DARTMOUTH REACHED OUT AND SAID IT WAS CLOSED)
PWP: Closed (full intern class conversion - CONFIRMED RECEIVED EMAIL FROM HR)
PJT: Open / Closed (comments below says its closed, converted 5 of 6 interns, poached a few from other banks, no confirmations yet)
Centreview: closed (networking invites out, AC invites out (11/10/2017)
Houlihan Lokey: Open? summers + off-cycles
Lazard: Open (Hand an AC 28th Sept)
Rothschild: Closed (phone interviews are out, offers out as well)

Others
Gleacher: closed (all positions filled)
Jefferies: Closed
Commerzbank: Not available
RBC: Closed (recruitment complete)
Mizuho: Closed
MUFG: Closed
BMO Capital Markets: Tried applying got referred to a FT app (not grad)
HSBC: No FT this year -> need to apply for internship (off-cycle) (did test on the 6th, received pass on the 20th, still under consideration (October 16th?????), 1st AC completed, offers are out)
DC Advisory: Closed (1st Rounds done, 2nd rounds done, AC done)
RBS
Robert W. Biard: N/A
Nomura: Open (ACs are on going as of 11/10/2017)
BNP: Closed
Soc Gen: No info
Natixis: Opens in April

Comments (219)

Sep 15, 2017

Can anyone confirm DB, CS, Lazard and Evercore do not have an off-cycle programme?

For CS, I know there is the Autumn analyst programme, but it starts in a couple of weeks and recruiting has been over for almost a year, so it is not really an off-cycle.

Sep 15, 2017

CS has both Autumn and Off-cycle as stated on their website

Lazard explicitly says no to off-cycle

DB has but you must be in your penultimate year going onto a placement year

No idea about Evercore

Sep 16, 2017

Could you please point me towards the CS off cycle? All I can see is Summer, Autumn and Full Time.
Thanks.

Sep 22, 2017

Anyone have a reply from GS or JPM yet?

Sep 25, 2017

Did anybody get a reply yet?

Sep 25, 2017

From who? I only have a reply from Lazard for FT - rejection post video interview

Sep 26, 2017

Anyone have a reply from PwP, PJT or Moelis?

Sep 27, 2017

Heard any interview activity for London IB grad at all?

Worried I might just be late / non-competitive as I haven't heard back regarding any human-led interviews haha

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Sep 27, 2017

MS: no news at all.
GS: no news at all.
Citi: passed online test, waiting for interview invitation/rejection.
Lazard: rejected after vireo interview.

Not gonna apply for other EBs as not from the target schools (ie Oxbridge/LSE)

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Sep 28, 2017

Created new account to preserve anonymity. Here's what I know:

BBs:
Goldman: if you didnt attend the networking event in August for current summer interns at other banks, don't expect to hear back. They're progressing with people from that event only, with only 2-3 spots to recruit for.
JPM: begins in November, usually very few spots.
MS: full, application opened and closed in July, recruited maybe 1-2.
Others: higher chances, rolling basis.

EBs:
Evercore: networking invites already out for shortlisted candidates.
PWP: full from intern class conversion.
PJT: full, whoever said non-rolling basis is simply wrong, think they converted 5 out of 6 interns, already poached a few from outside as well.

Best bets for those who do not have offers yet is to aim for MM and lower BB firms.

FT recruiting is extremely quick and competitive, as in the US. Expect to compete with candidates who already interned at multiple banks, with return offers. London is extremely competitive these days with fewer hiring needs and lower headcounts.

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Sep 28, 2017

Thanks for the detailed response. Makes for a rather disheartening read but was expected to be honest. Full-time recruitment is never easy!

Sep 28, 2017

Thanks mate - sorry about the PJT thing - heard it from another forum.

What do the EBs look for? BB exp?

For Goldman - was there an event? Couldn't find it. I know Citi had one.

CS also doesn't really recruit FT right (most of them are from Intern conversions)

MS: You're referring to the early bird program right? Who did they fill up with?

Sep 28, 2017

Just to clarify

PJT rolling for FT. SA apps are indeed non-rolling, no one will be looking at them for a few more weeks. I think you read that on thestudentroom? Info on there is quite accurate.

Goldman event did take place, on a Tuesday of August, can't remember exactly which date though. A bunch of interns across the City came to meet GS people. There was an application for it and you had to be invited to attend.

CS I don't know for sure so won't comment. MS filled their spots already.

For a lot of banks, even though there is no current need, there is still an online posting so that they have a pool of CVs to look at in case someone rescinds their acceptances, which happens more than you can imagine.

EBs tend to recruit quite selectively too. Most of them are from target schools from my networking efforts. At the highest level EBs like PJT, Evercore, Lazard, Centerview, people usually have cross offers from BBs.

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Sep 28, 2017
throwaway32923:

Created new account to preserve anonymity. Here's what I know:

What anonymity lol

Sep 28, 2017

Well people can view your post history, can piece together pretty quickly from what you posted and what you know to find out. Best to tread on the safer side of things.

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Oct 2, 2017

Mate, any updates from your side?

Rothschild seems to have handed out phone interviews

Jefferies has started screening and has handed out tests

Oct 7, 2017

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Oct 7, 2017

Man, I received Jefferies tests ages ago but haven't heard back. Received the tests a few days after applying.

Rothschild - no response from them, did the tests a long time ago as well, assuming a rejection there haha.

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Oct 7, 2017

Evercore sent me an invite to attend a networking event two weeks ago but I was trapped at work. Is my chance gone now then? :/

Oct 7, 2017

Was this for graduate analyst for IB?

Oct 7, 2017

some say there's no bearing on whether you attended

Dartmouth's running the process again and they're kinda shit

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Oct 7, 2017

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Oct 2, 2017

Any applied to HSBC off-cycle? I'm still under consideration after doing the test on the 6th, receiving pass mark on the 20th....

Oct 7, 2017

As I can't do off-clycles I applied for their AM grad instead. Got the job stimulation test invite last week (which I believe is their new first round interview) and done it today. Hope it helps.

Nov 28, 2017

I just got an email from HSBC yesterday inviting for a phone interview in a couple days after having gotten the "minimum benchmark" email 2 weeks ago

Oct 2, 2017

Would recent graduates be considered for these roles?

Oct 3, 2017

yes

Oct 3, 2017

Do you know of any recent graduates that got into one of these programs? All the apps I am seeing state the person has to be in final 2 years. Thanks for your help.

Oct 3, 2017

Rejected from UBS CCS post video interview

Oct 3, 2017

Same

Oct 5, 2017

Same

Oct 3, 2017

Just to update this thread in case anyone has been following.

Got an offer from a BB. Deadline to sign is quite near and I don't think I can get anything better. Pretty sure GS / MS are done, unless someone reneges (who would?!). There has been at least 1 AC for JPM FT and offers have been given out as well.

An observation during this process for anyone currently recruiting FT or might be doing so in the future. For all BBs, since FT is structured into teams, if you're coming from outside the intern pool, expect poor group placement. Interns at good groups usually come back and if not, the slots go to high-performing previous interns at other groups. My group is quite bad considering exits / PE placements but nothing else you can do. JPM offers went out to Capital Markets, Real Estate, etc.

With EBs, all groups do very well, as they do not cover areas where they don't have extensive expertise. But to gain a spot, likely you have to be extremely qualified, as I've seen the top people ending up at these places, with cross-offers at other places.

MMs are where most of the positions are available. From my contact at Jefferies and RBC, a lot of interns did not get a return offer, and those who did, some decided not to come back so they have a large class to fill.

Best of luck!

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Oct 4, 2017

Congrats mate - thanks for all your input and best of luck in the future. Hope you can stick around to give us more insight if you have nothing to do hahahaha.

For JPM, how does one get selected for the FT AC spot (or even progress to first round interviews?) You previously mentioned that the process doesn't start till Nov.

On a side note, can you take a look at my CV (if you have time of course) to see what I'm lacking? Would like some clarity on this matter.

Further insight into EB's - if you want to join them you'd have to do a summer analyst stint there (as you previously mentioned). I think Evercore, Lazard and Rothschild are the only EB, that hires FTs (maybe Centreview..?)

On a side note, looks like it's back to school for me

popping by MS's London event on the 12th to ask about the FT process, Goldman HR has said that they haven't even started considering yet...

Oct 4, 2017

Thanks. Regarding JPM, I was told November as well by HR but apparently Oxbridge gets different treatment. Sad truth.

CV wise, sure, happy to.

For EBs, I think you can see them for yourself possibly on LinkedIn and don't take my words for it. Before the summer internship this year, I went on LinkedIn and used my free premium trial to see the backgrounds of FT people at EBs. Moelis and PWP rarely hires outside the intern pool, almost every analysts there come from the internship. Evercore hires the most from other firms. Centerview has the usual 3-4 spots, HL (the good group, Restructuring) has literally 1 spot every year, sometimes they don't even hire. PJT is so unpredictable as it heavily depends on whether they managed to find extremely good interns the year before. Lazard and Rothschild have sizeable intakes.

Oct 5, 2017

Are this for FT starting in January?

Oct 6, 2017

No. June or July 2018

Oct 8, 2017

Anyone who's done Rothschild's grad programme first round face to face heard back yet?

Oct 10, 2017

Anyone any updates? Citi? etc

Oct 10, 2017

Full time applications:

Has anybody heard from UBS after video interview?

Heard from Jefferies after online test?

Evercore since dartmouth phonecall?

Moelis since online test invitation?

Or anything else.... someone hit him up!

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Oct 10, 2017

Did you get an online test invite for Moelis in London? Did you get a first round?

Oct 10, 2017

Did online test on Sunday after getting invitation las week

Oct 10, 2017

How about you?

Oct 10, 2017

No answer from Evercore after the initial phonecall
Moelis test invitation last week, no progress after
PWP is full
PJT full
Centerview has their AC this week
GS still on application received

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Oct 10, 2017

I'm the same also.

Oct 10, 2017

Heard Evercore is converting/keeping a lot of interns into FT.

Oct 10, 2017

What's the more common practice between full conversion of SA class and part conversion + external hire. I heard that DB and Rothschild tend to convert 70% and hire the remaining externally.

Oct 10, 2017

I mean if they like the interns, most banks will want to retain interns. If they don't offer or need more help, external.

I did hear apparently Evercore's retention for this year was high.

Nov 16, 2017

Can confirm Evercore gave out offers to all but one SA and they've already had ACs for the few remaining FT spots

Nov 16, 2017

Why didn't they give it to that one SA - you got any dirt on that girl/guy?

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Oct 10, 2017

Did anybody else do the RBC online tests? If so what was your feedback like. Private message me.

Oct 11, 2017

Let's keep the news coming boys and girls

Oct 12, 2017

I think if I don't hear back from Rothschild with a final round invite, it's pretty much done for me this year. Bit too late to receive more first round interview invite now, no?

Oct 12, 2017

no idea - I haven't received first round yet so I'm probably done

Oct 11, 2017

This may not be the right place to post,but I didn't want to open another thread.
Has anyone applied to MS Networking Drinks for German Speakers? Heard back from them? or went to this event in the last years?

Oct 11, 2017

Anyone heard back from the Nomura superday last monday? I know the time slots said there were final rounds on both monday and thursday this week, but wondering of they might have made a decision before thursday/friday..

Oct 11, 2017

Mind if I ask what position this is for?

I have a Nomura 1st round for IB FT coming up in two weeks time, but I'm hearing about ACs having taken place. Thanks!

Oct 11, 2017

FT IBD analyst, there are 4 slots this week as well with 4 candidates per slot.

Oct 11, 2017

Think Evercore should let people know soon or by end of next week(or following week) maybe...heard they retained a lot of their interns. So good luck to everyone!

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Oct 12, 2017

Any one going to a Goldman Firm wide presentation? e.g. UCL or LSE or Imperial? What's the registration process yet? If it says Event Closed, does it mean that I've been rejected?

Oct 13, 2017

BB offcycles anyone? I've not heard back from any offcycles I applied for (MS, BoA, Citi). What's the normal recruitment timeline for offcycles?? Thanks

Oct 13, 2017

For MS off-cycle, I got a first round last year in mid Nov. I know last ACs are in Jan (if I remember correctly)

Oct 13, 2017

Is everyone as dishearted as I am for FT roles?

as anybody heard from UBS after video interview?

Heard from Jefferies after online test?

Evercore since dartmouth phonecall?

Moelis since online test invitation?

Or anything else.... someone hit him up!

Oct 13, 2017

don't worry, I'm in a rut as well -> you got friends here.

Also, yes rejection from UBS, no to everything else.

Are you going to any events later this year?

Oct 13, 2017

No events

Oct 13, 2017

Was it the usual quick first round from Dartmouth?

Oct 13, 2017

I had a call with them for an MM last year. There was technicals too such as valuations stuff.

Oct 18, 2017

my MS early bird, JPM and GS (all for London) applications say it is 'received' and not under review yet. does this mean they wont get reviewed and no way i am even getting a first round? seriously guys wtf?! then what's the use of applying!? i have attended networking events that needed invites at all three firms for the past two years so i am so confused.

Oct 18, 2017

Same. My MS off cycle is under review but the FT one is received. They're probably full by now.

Oct 19, 2017

are we assuming they're full or do we actually know? has anyone had any contact with recruiters?

Oct 19, 2017

Not really sure what they were looking for in their early bird apps. I mean, most summer analyst positions start in End of June to early July right (correct me if I'm wrong), so those guys only have 4-6 weeks of experience. Not sure what they could write on their CVs.

Oct 19, 2017

Heard rejections should be given out of Evercore now.

Oct 19, 2017

yeah got one (FT)

Oct 19, 2017

Ugh...so the 90% retention was true....Great...

Oct 24, 2017

So any updates?????? Let's keep the news coming boys and girls

Oct 24, 2017

First rounds at Citi are this week for fulltime. DB will send out first round invites within 2 weeks.

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Oct 24, 2017

Is that for IBD? Should we expect no further news if we don't have a phone interview?

heard someone has an AC at Citi for CMO.

Oct 24, 2017

I have a Citi CMO grad AC coming up. Unsure on IBD.

Oct 24, 2017

Jep IBD, specific group. Friend of mine had a first round yesterday for generalist IBD. No idea if they continue to send out invites, I would reach out to the grad recruiting team!

Oct 24, 2017

Hey, remember you saying you were in the Nomura process. Any chance you know how long they take to get back to you after the first round?

Oct 24, 2017

has anyone that has applied to GS/JPM/MS for FT have the status of their application change from received to 'in review'?

Oct 25, 2017

No change

Oct 24, 2017

is centerview still open?

Oct 25, 2017

Gleacher off cycle has closed, they filled all positions. Freshminds confirmed via email last week

Oct 26, 2017

updated thanks

Nov 3, 2017

Moelis FT last round interviews with MDs this week. Got first round invite 20th Oct.

MS Summer Analyst phone interview next week. Got first round invite 1st Nov.

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Nov 4, 2017

Update: I know of friends with FT offers from DB, Nomura, GS and Rothschild
.

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Nov 5, 2017

When did your friend interview for GS?

Nov 5, 2017

In the last few weeks. Maybe 2/3 weeks ago?

It seems like they're full by now.

Nov 4, 2017

I believe Jefferies is closed , they already had AC for "core universities" and I believe today was AC for non-core universities.

Nov 5, 2017

When was the core uni one? Heard one happened on Sat

Nov 5, 2017

Oct 14 or Oct 21 was for core universities.
And yes, non core was on Sat. (I was not there to avoid any potential question).
So, I don't think so that Jefferies will have any other AC's.

Nov 6, 2017

Is it safe to assume that all IBD grads are full by now?

Nov 6, 2017

Not yet. CS still hasn't started (I think), and someone above posted that JPM is usually late to the party.

Citi's still recruiting to my knowledge but only 5-8 places for FT IBD (No idea for CMO)

No idea on other sorry

Nov 16, 2017

Thanks for the updates mate

Nov 8, 2017

Any news from Citi IBD?

Anything other updates? would like to keep this up to date. Thanks

Nov 10, 2017

Anyone heard from JPM/MS Off-Cycle?

Nov 10, 2017

I had a first-round for MS IBD off-cycle internship 1.5 weeks ago. Applied in early October.

Nov 15, 2017

Have they got back to you?

Nov 28, 2017

JPM has off-cycle roles?

Nov 18, 2017

William Blair is also recruiting off-cycle interns (they only hire analysts after an internship)

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Nov 20, 2017

Anyone still waiting to hear back from Macquarie post AC

Nov 20, 2017

Long shot, but don't suppose anyone has any insights on the Nomura AC?

Nov 21, 2017

someone posted they had a Nomura AC - better off directly messaging them.

Nov 21, 2017

Anybody heard from the following:

MS ER, BAML ER, Barclays ER, JPM AM, GS IMD, Jefferies (Had a Phone Interview on 15th Nov), Citi IBD (FSG)

Had HSBC AC for AM (Rej) and got a DB AC for AM tomorrow :')

Nov 27, 2017

HSBC AM AC for grad? Can see they are still sending out job simulator invites :/ completed mine a month ago and still no news
There is an AM thread on TSR and no one seems to have heard back for HSBC AM grad AC yet

Nov 28, 2017

This is summer surely? DB AM diddn't hire for grad, and afaik the recruiter for HSBC said they're screening AM grad in december

Nov 21, 2017

RBC emailed saying IBD grad is full.

Nov 22, 2017

Does MS offer off-cycles during the second half of the year (i.e. after the summer)? Or is this position targeted at the Jan-Jun period?

Thanks!

Nov 22, 2017

From what a recruiter told me, off-cycle positions are only open for Jan-Jun period.

Nov 22, 2017

Anyone got a reply from Citi FT yet?

Nov 27, 2017

Hello everybody,

I have been invited to the psychometric assessments of Macquarie for the Graduate Program in London and I have done them on Friday. If successful, I should be invited to the AC. Does anibody know how long it takes to have an answer?

Many thanks!!!

Nov 28, 2017

Heads up re RBS - they spun off their investment banking unit to something called NatWest and are not hiring as far as I know - if I'm wrong someone please tell me!

Nov 28, 2017

it's called structured finance at RBS

Dec 4, 2017

thanks, already had applied to their investment management when I couldn't find IB so I'm tapped out for this year

Dec 4, 2017

Anyone heard back from GS post hirevue?

Dec 4, 2017
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