Like you acknowledged, MBB internships are way more selective than MBB full-time hiring. As a result, their return offer rates are typically around 95%. This means if all three firms gives FT offers (at this point, it's very unlikely Bain would) they overhired like 30-40 people (mostly MBA's) as a collective, across all offices in the country.

That's very different than banking, where internships are the main talent pipeline, and giving everyone an offer would be around a 50% increase in hires for some firms.

I think people in both consulting and banking are very aware of this reality and so while I totally understand that bankers are hopeful, it's unlikely that firms as prestigious as McKinsey are going to shift the way banks operate. The nature/purpose of the internship is different, and so are the talent numbers, and I think people know that.

You're right about the impact on reputation. Particularly in this economic state, Citi and Moelis are going to end up with some bonus points for the next few recruiting cycles

 

This is a pretty solid take, not sure what the ms is all about.

UG and MBA IB recruiting are apples and oranges. No offense to anyone here, but in my previous role as an analyst it was pretty obvious our post-MBA associates were almost always second-tier candidates from their respective schools (often showing up with inflated sense of self, no previous finance experience or technical skills, etc.). It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that top MBAs self select out and turn down offers from GS/MS for something with similar long-term upside and better lifestyle in the interim. UG recruiting really is, as others have said, the entry point for the best and brightest to access PE recruiting. Have never once spoken to an analyst who went into banking as a serious long-term career - although some do end up changing their minds along the way.

 

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