HL RX vs Evercore RX vs PJT RSSG
Hey you all, Hoping to get some help deciding on what to take. Fortunate enough to have an offer from two of the three above groups (RX for HL/Evercore/PJT) and wondering if anyone could give some information about them on the following attributes (leaving it open to all 3 for anonymity and to make it useful for other user)
— Culture/Hours
— Return Offer Rates
— Anything else
I’m generally aware that exits are good at all of them, so advice would be super helpful thanks
Is this for 2019 Summer? and NYC?
Yes, Summer 19 in NYC.
Both HL and Evercore are phenomenal companies, though if you were going for reputation, HL takes the cake when it comes to RX. In reality though that doesn't matter that much as they're both great. From what I'm aware HL tries to give all their interns return offers, so if that's something you're worried about I would take that into account. Evercore gives a majority of people return offers as well so as long as you do well, you'll get an offer. I'm not very familiar with PJT, so I can't help you there.
The other thing to consider is that HL has a lot of offices working in RX and depending on your location you may get better or worse exposure, while RX at Evercore is a pretty small team, so if you do work there you'll be sure to get a lot of deal flow.
HL RX and EVR both pay above street, so unless you are dead set on NYC I would consider cost of living, especially if you want to stay at the same firm for a while. Beyond that, if you have any other questions, let me know and I'll do my best to answer them.
Do you know anything about Evercore RX exits?
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EVR is a small group but their exits are really good. Everyone has left for a MF/HF the last couple of years, and their incoming classes are really strong.
Thanks for all this information ! Other than about PJT, two more questions - for HL, would the nyc office be the best one ? If not do you know anything about possibly lateraling to LA/any other good office ?
Other question is about hours between the two - friends say that RX hours tend to be the worst, so if that’s true do which of the three shops have it the worst from your knowledge ?
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HL RX has good culture, good comp, perks, and good exits. Don't know much about EVR RX. Are they any good? Seems like they have been growing a lot lately.
what perks are you referring to? is the comp above most BB?
EVR RX has great exits.
You'd be stupid not to take PJT RSSG.. By far the best out of the 3.
Why? People have turned down BX/PJT for other banks many times. The work is similar at all the top RX places. It’s more about where you see yourself being the most comfortable. A talented person will be able to get a great exit from any of these options.
Agree with your point about comfort. But the exits from PJT RSSG have been unreal (especially on the HF side)
Congrats on the offers. I was in your shoes last recruiting cycle and had to make the choice between two of the three groups as well, so hopefully I can provide a bit of insight.
Mostly agree with juicebox77, went through the FT recruiting cycle last summer. I would rank them as:
This is based on exits, analyst level development, culture and compensation. I had a buddy go to PJT and tell me that he found the culture super cutthroat but that could be one persons experience.
Lol have 0 idea why this got MS’d, it something’s wrong leave a comment explaining the source of disagreement and then we can have a discussion that’ll benefit the members of the forum?
Congrats on all 3.
Two points I'd like to emphasize, as they've been mentioned above already.
1) The culture varies. From what I've heard (first hand), it varies a lot. Keep that in mind.
2) Exits are also all great, period. You're not going to be selling yourself short choosing one over the other. However, I'd second what was said by hcet above, in that PJT's exits have been consistently the best historically. Then again, I know 2 guys who were Houlihan RX that went to Apollo. You see what I'm saying? Honestly, if you're good you will place incredibly well coming out of any of these groups.
Deletes
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Having either co-advised or been opposition of both HL RX and PJT RSSG, I have to say some of the smartest people I've seen in banking have been from PJT.
On culture, if you are looking at HL and PJT, they are both equal at the end of the day. You are going to get worked to the bone at these elite groups, and thats the same at any elite group.
I'd personally select PJT - but then again I prefer debtor work.
why the MS?
They are all comparable. EVR Rx has phenomenal exits and has a very small class of analysts. PJT Rx has a phenomenal exits as well and very sharp people. Both groups are very technical so put you in a good place. I have to agree with above (just from recruiting experience), I ended up going non Rx route, but of my friends who were interested in Rx, I have friends that specifically chose PJT/EVR over Houlihan offers.
Very inaccurate. I know multiple people who have accepted HL over EVR and one person who was still in the process with PJT but accepted HL
I'm sorry but none of my accounts of what you say are true. I have 4 buddies in restructuring and all of them chose PJT and EVR over HL. I am guessing youre joining Houlihan as you recently made an account and commented on this? You may have friends that went the other way but am just providing objective advice based on my friends who went into the field. Think they are all comparable but have no reason to lie about it.
Relax, it’s pretty clear that you work at EVR based on your post history. I’m just stating what I’ve seen at my school (top target)
They’re all very similar.
Lol....If you PM me I'm more than happy to tell you which bank and group I work in. You just made this account, commented on this post, and then tried to copy what I said about you working at HL. I don't even work in restructuring I'm just trying to provide help to people who may be interested in. For some reason its very popular at the school I go to (H,W,S,P) and many people are interested in it.... Unlike you just trying to provide advice for people interested in the field instead of biased advice
For what it's worth,
PJT RSSG exits this cycle: Blackstone, Apollo, Centerbridge, KKR, Anchorage, Oaktree, GSO
EVR RX exits this cycle:
Anyone know what the HL exits were this cycle?
Carlyle, Apollo, KKR, Oaktree
For what it's worth he's correct about PJT incorrect about EVR
Yea actually know someone from EVR who got one of shops listed above dont know whole class but think did very well as like they did last year. Overall, all 3 of these places will get you interviews at all of the top distressed shops without fail or debate. Will say that PJT opens up opportunities to traditional PE but that is not to say that you still can't get there from EVR/HL. From going through the process, I can't stress enough that it is up to you once you get to that point. So, all in all, there is no point in arguing or throwing monkey shit at people when these are all comparable places to be with great experiences and great brand names. Focus on growing on a person and getting smarter every day and I'm sure you'll be fine whichever shop you choose.
What about LAZ Rx exits nowadays compared to the other three?
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Anyone have updated information on this (about recent exits or anything else)? Deciding between 2 of the 3
take PJT if you have it
I'd go with PJT
How would this ranking change in London?
You would need to pronounce it with an accent
how do salaries and signing bonuses compare at analyst and associate level?
heard hl was 85/105-115/20 for all in ~215 analyst 1
NY right?
is signing bonus 20?
pretty solid
Do you guys have any info on the NY class sizes? Looking at LinkedIn for this summer they all look very small like 6-8 (maybe does someone not post about it?)
Also why is this hard to get one of these group from even a semi-target? I was thinking since rx is very technicals they should look at knowledge more than pedigree but data suggests the opposite
8-9 pjt, 9-10 HL (evr unknown), and not everyone posts (know ppl from my school going to both who havent posted). as for pedigree, groups are small enough where they can hire only 1-3 per top target w/ pedigree+techs, and naturally pedigree+techs> just techs
Congrats on Wharton
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