How much should I expect to drop on an apartment if I have furniture etc.?

Hello! So I will be starting in NYC this summer and I will start my apartment hunt soon. I am not going to have buy much furniture, because I am just going to UHAUL some of it from home. So considering that I am not planning on spending much on furniture, am I still going to have to drop a lot on the appartment, or is that one of the big expenses. Thanks

 

I had to pay around $6k to get into my apartment, and that did not include broker fees. The standard is: 1 month deposit, 1 month rent, plus the appropriate fraction of whatever month you're in at the moment. If you use a broker, that'll be 15% of your first year's rent, or another $4k to $5k.

Furniture was an additional $3k. I highly recommend roommates. Rich ones.

 

Broker fee for 90W? Most apts downtown are no-fee.

I live right by ground zero and when we moved in we were required to pay 1st months rent along with a security deposit.

Last week I signed a lease on a new place (in Jersey City, moving in June 1st), requirement was 1st months rent + 1000 security deposit.

To all those re-locating, a word of advice from someone who has lived in NYC for the past 4 years: START YOUR SEARCH EARLY! If you wait til the last second (along with all the others) prices will be at their peak. Also, IT IS POSSIBLE TO AVOID THE BROKER FEE. It requires a bit more time, and perhaps some patience, but in the end it will save you the 10-15% on the annual rent.

 

I completely agree. I didn't pay a broker fee, and I think most analysts who are just moving to the city shouldn't plan to either, unless they're wanting to get into a very special building for some reason.

 

Just so you all know, broker fees are a zero sum game. I was a RE agent in another large city. If we dont collect the fee from the renter, we collect it from the landlord. Which means hes charging you 10-15% MORE on the apartment per month so that he can pay that sleazy real estate agent his fee.

In reality, RE agents will push the "no fee" apartments harder because they look "cheaper" to people on the outside. The only time you can REALLY get a savings is by finding an apartment in an off-peak time. Like coogikat said, START EARLY or start really late.

 

Of course, I think most of us are referring more to luxury high-rises than to walk-ups. The market for landlord-style apartments is very different.

However, all segments of the market for apartments are brutal. You can have good luck or you can have bad... but you still want to start as early as possible.

 

Only true way to arb out the broker fee is to know someone that is already leaving a good apartment and that person is able to get you into the building at 5-7% above his/her rent.

Finding a reasonably priced apartment anywhere in the City without a broker fee is pertty damn hard. Barring luck, your opportunity cost of time searching for a reasonable place will add up as well.

 

Most analysts pay 1200-1500 a month in rent for themselves. I'm at the upper end of that, but I live with my fiance who doesn't really make analyst money.

 

Fuckin' A, I already told like half of my graduating class that I couldn't live with them because I want to stay alone....Godamn you guys are talking about a lot of benjamins here..

 

Jj, that's why I live with my fiance in a studio... and why many analysts I know live in less convenient or fashionable districts, occasionally even sharing rooms.

 

Sure... but bear in mind that you will not be able to pay for 1700 with a single paycheck. Your rent will then be greater than 50% of your bring-home salary. It can be done, of course. But some analysts prefer to save an extra couple hundred dollars on rent and spend it on fun, or clothes, or whatever.

Or, like me, on paying off debt.

 

Sure, you can do that. $3400 will get you a really nice senior-banker-level studio or a decent 1br in a nice building.

Or did you mean just for yourself? Come on... I know a solid future banker like you has done your research.

Cheer up, though. You can live on your own for 1700.

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Here's what I did. I shipped my Vespa to Soho through interdealership transfers, put all my furnishings and personals in a Door to Door Storage box during and right after finals, sent it off to storage and drove in my fiance's car to New York two days after graduation, engaged an apartment to begin on June 15th, flew out from New York (cheaper airfare) to Rome, enjoyed a month traveling across Italy, arrived back in New York on June 14th, slept in the car for a night, and took possession of the apartment on the 15th. Door to Door delivered the storage box on the 20th and we were set.

Took some arrangement, and Door to Door was costly, but it was worry-free and I didn't have to drive a U-Haul across the country with the car attached by a hitch.

The downside was that I left myself only one full day to find and rent an apartment in New York before flying out because I stupidly didn't want to pay for multiple days of hotel rooms. This was overconfident, and I believe I may have settled on an apartment too quickly. Give yourself at least three days for apartment hunting.

 

How does this work for analysts in regional offices (Houston) during training?

I know that they supply you with corporate housing, but is it furnished? Otherwise wouldn't it would be a tremendous hassle and expensive to move everything to NYC for 6 weeks and then have to move everything back to Houston and you don't even get days off to do the moving.

For those of you in regional offices, any tips on making the move efficient?

 

I forget -- do they put you up in hotels or corporate housing during training? Anyone remember? I'm pretty sure they don't rent you an unfurnished apartment. That would be uncharacteristically lame of them.

 

Yeah, IBanalyst, I don't know. I contribute to a 401(k) and have a good health plan. Perhaps they work for a bank with a cheaper health plan and don't put any pre-tax money away?

 

good bang for the buck .. I pay $1,500 for a 475sq square foot 1 br.

JMZ to downtown - 5 mins BFV to midtown - 20 mins 5-10 min walk to soho

A lot of hipster fegs, but clinton st has great restraunts and ludlow/rivington/stanton/ all are lively in the summer.

 

True, but that's the Lower East Side for you.

Also: walkup or high-rise? What year was it constructed? How large are the windows; how much light? How insulated are the walls? These things make a difference to your quality of life.

 
Mis Ind:
True, but that's the Lower East Side for you.

Also: walkup or high-rise? What year was it constructed? How large are the windows; how much light? How insulated are the walls? These things make a difference to your quality of life.

Newly renovated building, 2nd floor walk up, brand new appliances, marble floors, very clean. 2 windows in living room, 1 window bedroom, west sun exposure, large bathroom. Gets kinda loud in the summer though.

I found it via craigslist .. paid 15% broker fee which when amoritzed over 2 years is reasonable. The 2 bedrooms in my building go for 2,200 which is a steal.

 

Craigslist was not helpful to me.... I wanted a nice high-rise, recently constructed or rebuilt, professionally run, with good amenities. You don't see too many of those who have exclusive Craigslist ads.

In fact, online apartment hunting was significantly less helpful than I had hoped, partly due to the fact that it's actually bad business sense for anyone to pay for a website to promote free access to data about New York apartments. You can make a little money off ads, but nothing compares to actually being able to charge fees.

 

1700 take home, thats just one check, so analysts can assume 3400 take home for a month? Oh and I wouldn't consider Battery Park/Financial District fashionable, there's nothing to do. I know FiDi is trying to make a comeback, but its not there yet.

 

Heh... I find PLENTY to do in the FiDi and Battery Park. You just have to enjoy slumming, I suppose. For me it isn't even really slumming; it's far nicer than some of the shitholes I used to frequent in my old town. And if you get really bored, you can go to Ulysses and observe the mating habits of the young and overpaid.

I personally enjoy living down there. Sure, there are no Michelin-starred restaurants in the area, but on the rare occasion when I go to one, I don't mind the six-minute cab ride up the West Side Highway.

 

True. We have no need of a singles pickup scene and, in fact, like things to be quiet and peaceful on the weekends. If you're single, don't live in the FiDi. You will either slit your wrists or start hooking up with hairy goblin girls at Ulysses, after which you will slit your wrists.

Well, no. But you get my drift. It's easier to hook up if you're further north.

 

Very true and I wasn't shooting an insult in your direction by any means MissInd. If it were up to me I would be living in the FiDi. I think right now it is hard to be the value downtown. Every apartment is nice as hell, i mean AWESOME, but i have a roommate that I have to compromise with.

 

The value is nice.

Actually, I have a question for you guys. My building is looking to raise my rent to $2800 for the studio I'm in. I wouldn't mind moving to the upper edge of the FiDi/BPC, or even Tribeca/Chelsea/SoHo if it would be cheaper. Am I going to find a sunny luxury high-rise studio for $2500-$2600 in those areas? Anyone have any leads?

My only requirements are that I need dry-cleaning and laundry in-building, a gym, and a doorman who can take packages.

 

1500sq ft --> Less than 2 miles from work --> My own parking spot --> Newly gutted place with brand new appliances (including washer + dryer) --> Living by myself

$1500 / month

PS: New York sucks!

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But two miles from Lower Manhattan is halfway to Newark, which requires the use of PATH, which is lengthy, uncomfortable, and unreliable on weekends. Plus there's no slick Zagat-reviewed bar or restaurant downstairs or around the corner to hang out in, plus all the views I've seen in NJ (aside from Jersey City) are kind of bad. Ick. I'll take the higher rent. No need to maintain a car, either.

 

Looks like I may have to hit up my Parents for a loan. So what's the best area for singles ? I don't want to feel like I'm living in a fuckin' old age home obviously. The Lower east side sounds like it's full of fags and other assorted hippies so that's out of the question.

 

Chelsea and Meatpacking, I believe, is the time-honored venue for picking up broads. Beware, though. Gay people like it there too, and they will be lurking in corners, waiting to feel you up when you least expect it. They are all quite evil, you know, and delight in preying upon unsuspecting young straight men.

Forewarned is forearmed.

Of course, forearming sounds like it comes after fisting, so what do I know?

 

I am living with 3 other people. 2 of us are working in Tribeca and the other two are in Midtown East.

Where can we live and accommodate everyone? Im thinking Hells Kitchen and maybe Chelsea? Any thoughts guys?

 

Don't worry about me babe, I'll beat them till they're straight if they even look at me strange.

I don't want to live in an area full of lower class peons and hipsters so lower eastside doesn't sound too appealing.

What about Murray hill or midtown ?

 
chronicle:
Coming from way out of town to New York, how long should I give myself to look for an apartment?

I will not be working until the beginning of August. I heard that looking any earlier than 4 weeks in advance would be fruitless since you cannot lock in an apartment any earlier than that.

It depends on luck, some apartments need to be filled right away, some don't. I'd start the full search around begining of June.

Do a search on Craiglist for 'august'

 

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