I deserve to feel superior, not because I'm a narcissist, but because I have wasted my 20s for success instead of wasting for having fun.

I could have partied so much more instead of studying and learning things while so many people were partying all week during high-school .

I could have fucked so many girls during college instead of travelling for hours to meet bankers, financiers and family friends to network, and study all weekend.

I could have took different trips to Asia, Europe, America and Caribbeans to enjoy my summers instead of wasting it with stupid internships.

I could have enjoyed my middle 20s instead of chasing my boss, wasting all of my day at work, and paying for hookers because I had no time to have a stable relationship.

I could have partied like normal people instead of taking shit loads of drugs along with alcohol to not feel burnt out while partying.

I deserve to feel superior to someone who works at a corporate job. Instead of working 8 hours a day, enjoying my time with my family, protesting for socialism, waiting with excitement for a trip that I will take once year, waiting in line for hours to buy the new Iphone, having vanilla sex with random girls to feel happy, instead I have to work 8-12 hours, sometimes 7 days a week in my late 30s, and spend tens of thousands of dollars and do extreme things to feel happy and excited.

If you have wasted, and are wasting your time in high-finance post-2008 with one of the lowest salaries in the history of finance, you deserve to feel more superior than anyone else. It was already hard for us when we were making over a million after 5 years in IB pre-2008, now you're working 80 hours for what 300k-600k ? There is nothing wrong with feeling superior while doing this shit.

Use your money to help others too, don't be a useless douchebag. If you know a poor family, help them, and don't give a single cent to IOs.

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Nov 10, 2021 - 10:36am

Really agree and appreciate this! Feel like the same kind of person as OP, sometimes would like to use "utilitarian" to describe. I'm just a junior and got SA from a top BB, sometimes still become lazy and want to have some fun, but feel extremely regretted and self-accused after. Hope can do things better like you

Nov 10, 2021 - 10:42am

I'm not trying to sound like a dick, but why are you seeking validation from people on the internet who are probably less than half as successful as you? Like you literally made it in terms of financial freedom and yet you still seem insecure about your life decisions. Do you really need people telling you that you did the right thing in building your success by grinding instead of getting drunk and banging hookers?ย 

  • PM in HF - Other
Nov 10, 2021 - 11:28am

I don't need to seek validation from anyone, just telling junior bankers and financiers that there's nothing wrong with feeling superior when you're wasting your 20s on something productive while other people are constantly seeking things that will give them a dopamine rush, and nowadays they should even feel more superior than the pre-2008 bankers/financiers because their salaries are pretty low compared to 15-20 years ago.

There are so many people who work 80-100 hours a week, doing something productive, and feeling bad afterwards because society tells and encourages them to not feel ''superior'', be equal, and not be competitive. If you're working in this industry, listening your boss' bullshit every day, not giving up after 90 hours of working weeks, not going to vacations for 1-2 years, and missing out all the fun your friends are having, you are worthy of feeling superior to the people who follow their instincts and do nothing productive.

Even on this platform, so many people mock high-financiers for being too competitive, egomaniacal and narcissistic. Encouraging people to be nice is one of the most damaging things to this industry, without competition and drive for succes this industry would die.

Nov 12, 2021 - 4:25am

You're literally such a fucking pussy dude. It sounds like you chose a sad fucking college life over one where you may have been able to have fun and gotten laid.

God dude, some of you kids need a fucking reality check man, its not all about fucking grades, it's about railing nice fucking ass and being a good dude .

Getting good grades and a good job should just be expected lmao, if you aren't fucking any nice ass, then honestly, you just fucking suck ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Dec 2, 2021 - 1:16pm

Temple-Raptor

I'm not trying to sound like a dick, but why are you seeking validation from people on the internet who are probably less than half as successful as you? Like you literally made it in terms of financial freedom and yet you still seem insecure about your life decisions. Do you really need people telling you that you did the right thing in building your success by grinding instead of getting drunk and banging hookers?ย 

Thank you!

SafariJoe, wins again!
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Nov 10, 2021 - 10:47am

Are you the same "PM in HF - Other" who made the thread about allegedly banging women in every country?

If so: knew you were a total loser.ย  Thanks for admitting it.ย  You only have one life, and that's how you chose to spend it.ย  No refunds.

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Nov 10, 2021 - 11:38am

Jesus fucking Christ get a grip man. This had better be a troll. There is nothing glamorous or challenging about this job and none of us is "better" than anyone else for doing it.ย 

EDIT: After more careful consideration, the original post is so purposefully pathetic that there is absolutely no way this isn't a troll.

Nov 10, 2021 - 1:13pm

gufmo

none of us is "better" than anyone else for doing it.ย 

Yeah exactly - achieving career success doesn't make a person 'better' than others. Maybe more wealth, but definitely doesn't mean better or superior.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Nov 10, 2021 - 12:43pm

We all make choices in our life. What's productive and important to you is not to someone else. If you want to slave away your 20's go ahead. Others can have equally fulfilling lives without needing to work 100 hr weeks. Now I'm closer to your camp in that I will most likely be working a lot more than most of my friends, it's what I enjoy, it's what I chose to do and it will (hopefully) get me to where I want to be. However, it doesn't make me 'superior' to anyone else.

Nov 10, 2021 - 1:10pm

PMย inย HF - Other

I deserve to feel superior to someone

You don't deserve to feel superior to anyone. If you think you're superior than your waiter getting your food or superior than the 'help,' you're living your life the wrong way.

People shouldn't feel superior as each person should be treated with loving care and kindness. Life isn't about climbing up a ladder and looking down on those who haven't climbed as high as you on the career totem pole. Everyone has their place and should be respected. Feeling superior sometimes leads to being a condescending asshole, which you should strive to avoid at all costs. If you gain all this career success, but can't treat your fellow man with respect, you in fact have accomplished nothing.ย 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Dec 2, 2021 - 1:22pm

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PMย inย HF - Other

I deserve to feel superior to someone

You don't deserve to feel superior to anyone. If you think you're superior than your waiter getting your food or superior than the 'help,' you're living your life the wrong way.

People shouldn't feel superior as each person should be treated with loving care and kindness. Life isn't about climbing up a ladder and looking down on those who haven't climbed as high as you on the career totem pole. Everyone has their place and should be respected. Feeling superior sometimes leads to being a condescending asshole, which you should strive to avoid at all costs. If you gain all this career success, but can't treat your fellow man with respect, you in fact have accomplished nothing.ย 

And this is why we still have a human population. Thanks for chiming in. These superior comments just shock me when people believe in the self made mantra.

SafariJoe, wins again!
Nov 10, 2021 - 1:12pm

I have never seen a post that is so in between serious or a complete troll. I've read it multiple times and still can't figure out which it is, probably because there are many on this site who unironically talk like this.

Nov 11, 2021 - 11:43am

yeah...i'm stumped.ย  if real, the guy sounds like a legitimate sociopath and i feel like there's a decent chance he's definitely murdered somebody along the way.

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Nov 10, 2021 - 1:31pm

To each their own, OP, but you sound like a lot of my banker friends who signed away their 20s to make a lot of money, made it, but now have nothing to spend their hard earned money on because they didn't develop a personality or hobbies (beyond blowing money at bars/clubs with other souless finance douches) with all the time they spent moving boxes in PowerPoint or tweaking assumptions in models. You have the right to look down upon people who have earned less money than you for sure, but I hope you have enough social awareness to understand that the rest of the us feel superior to you for different reasons.ย 

Nov 10, 2021 - 5:16pm

I Deserve To Feel Superior, Not Because I'm A Narcissist, But Because I Have Wasted My 20s For Having Fun Instead Of Wasting For Success.

I could have studied so much more instead of partying while so many people were studying and learning things all week during high-school .

I could have traveled for hours in college to meet bankers, financiers and family friends to network, and studied all weekend instead of fucking so many girls.

I could have wasted my summers on internships instead of taking different trips to Asia, Europe, America and Caribbeans to enjoy my summers.

I could have spent my middle 20s chasing my boss, wasting all of my day at work, and paying for hookers because I had no time to have a stable relationship, instead of enjoying them.

I could have taken shit loads of drugs along with alcohol to not feel burnt out while partying instead of partying like normal people.

I deserve to feel superior to someone who works in high finance. Instead of having to work 8-12 hours, sometimes 7 days a week in my late 30s, and spending tens of thousands of dollars and do extreme things to feel happy and excited, I work 8 hours a day, enjoy my time with my family, protest for socialism, wait with excitement for a trip that I will take once year, wait in line for hours to buy the new Iphone, and have vanilla sex with random girls to feel happy.

If you didn't waste, and are not wasting your time in high-finance post-2008 with one of the lowest salaries in the history of finance, you deserve to feel more superior than them. It was already hard for them when they were making over a million after 5 years inย IBย pre-2008, now they're working 80 hours for what 300k-600k ? There is nothing wrong with feeling superior while avoiding that shit.

Use your money to help others too, don't be a useless douchebag. If you know a poor family, help them, and don't give a single cent to IOs. (idk what IOs are)

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Nov 12, 2021 - 8:50pm

thx for immortalizing this for when the edit eventually comes

"one for the money two for the better green 3 4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine" - M.F. Doom

Nov 10, 2021 - 7:06pm

Agree that this seems like a troll post, though there may be a hint of truth.

It seems to me as if you're saying it's OK (or even great) to feel superior precisely because you feel inferior or are insecure in some ways. I've achieved all these magnificent things, I deserve to trample those who haven't done the great things that I did. Who cares man? We're rewarded for our ability to allocate asset pretty much because we were born in this day and age. Born pretty much any other time, our heads could be on a spike for any reason. We need to realize how fortunate we are to be born in the right place at the right time. There is no reason to feel superior because the foundation of your success was predicated upon a string of fortuitous events.ย 

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  • Associate 1 in IB - Restr
Nov 10, 2021 - 9:03pm

Everything else aside, there's nothing wrong w/ paying for whores (as long as they're unaffordable for most) or popping adderall / doing some nose clams whenever you drink.ย 

Nov 11, 2021 - 3:56am

Agree that you set yourself up for success but why feel superior? Like in the event this is real (and if it's not then oh well I've wasted time), making tons of sacrifices is an entirely personal and self-serving choice while has probably yielded you a great income/network/apartment/future but like if other people you're interacting with haven't done the same, then it's all good. Doesn't make you better and certainly doesn't give you the right to be a dick. Different strokes for different folks and I wholly believe in treating all folks as equals. Rarely a bad outcome with that.

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  • Analyst 2 in PE - Other
Nov 11, 2021 - 10:56am

The reason you feel inferior (and are thus making this post, seeking validation of your philosophy from strangers on the internet) is precisely because you are trying to logic your way into "why I'm superior to others". Meaning you implicitly assume that certain people are more or less valuable than other people.ย 

Judging others in this way also implicitly condemns yourself -- internalizing the belief that your value as a human is not inherent, but instead relative to the competition. And in this totem pole of human's worth, there will always be people "more valuable / more worthy" than you. And you will likely always be angry at "less worthy" people who have things that you do not.

Counterintuitively, you will never find happiness until you realize that people are inherently valuable. We're all just here. We're all just searching for what matters. And we all need to do the best we can with that limited time.

Decide what matters to you in this world, rather than pursuing a perpetually fleeting feeling of superiority. Happiness and meaning are not a zero-sum game.

Nov 11, 2021 - 11:30am

I don't care if I get crap for this because it needs to be said.

Choosing to work in finance and putting in the time and energy to succeed was your choice based on what you valued in life. To think you're better than someone else making far less than you, but has time to enjoy their lives is conceited and narcissistic when you remember that others don't think about you.

The whole post sounds as if you're trying to convince yourself that you made the right choices as you remanence of all of the things you never got to do and live a "normal" life. What even is that? Everyone has their own struggles, they differ by the individual. Social work undergrads struggle paying bills or landing in their field since it requires Masters. CS Students have to compete just as intensely to stand out and differentiate themselves to place in FAANG. Law students work comparable hours to Bankers and Accounting students, although work less hours, earn slave wages. It's as if you're generalizing every one who you deemed to be "less successful" as if they didn't put in their effort in their own right in their own fields. Sure, not everyone is driven to chase their professional goals, but to think yourself superior simply because of your perceived success of others is just unsubstantiated and baseless.

How do you value success or superiority? By the number in your bank account? the financial security you amassed? By the times you've been rewarded in your pursuit to enter and thrive in the field? Not by the meaningful relationships you've sustained, or by simply feeling happy for the little things? Is that too vanilla of a happiness for someone in high finance?ย 

On a final note, the utilitarian basis of wanting to give back strikes me as you convincing yourself that you're working in banking "for the greater good". Although I admire anyone willing to donate their money, it sounds more self-fulfilling and reaffirming this feeling of superiority that you've concocted.

Feeling superior and being superior are two different things. This right here... is small dick energy.ย 

Nov 11, 2021 - 1:41pm

Traditional "high finance" has not retained even a modicum of prestige since the 80s (all semblances of prestige were torn apart in 2007). Nowadays, any Tom, Dick and Harry who matriculates from a top 50 institution with above a 3.0 gpa can land any "high finance" job they want.

The only remaining bastions of prestige are also WASP playgrounds, which pretty much means you need to be a big boy with loaded and connected parents to access this prestige.

Have fun in IBD, S&T, ER, AM, VC, HF, PWM or whatever other low-paying role you were deluded into thinking by financial institutions into thinking are prestigious.

Nov 11, 2021 - 4:33pm

Also bozo, I was fucking mad broads in high school, undergrad AND my MBA and currently rake in 8mm total comp annually in my mid-20s, sounds like you were literally too braindead to have a social life while getting a 3.5+ gpaย 

  • Partner in PE - LBOs
Nov 11, 2021 - 9:33pm

What the fuck is this thread, lol?

The people who land top BB (MS GS JPM) in Investment Banking and absolutely go in and crush their 2 year stint, get really really fucking good exit ops (e.g. MF PE) and move on to subsequently keep crushing it afterwards. A lot of BB bankers I know are good looking, helps if you played sports in college man.ย 

Also if you have a chance to move to PE, you'll get a heck lot more sharper real fucking quick.ย 

Finance is a long game - if you think you did banking and won the fucking lotto, you will be out of the industry in no time and won't hack the 2 yrs.

...also not every bank has you formatting logos... and if you're working 80-90 hours, surely some of those hours you're going to be learning something.

Either way, once you land in PE / HF or choose to go corporate, your skills will skyrocket. That's why it's a long game

Nov 12, 2021 - 4:18am

Hahahahhaa I could have this I could have that. NO you couldn't have dude shut the fuck up. That's what everyone says that's a fucking loser.

You couldn't have fucked shit whether you tried or not dude. Don't try and make any fucking excuses for yourself lmao. That's cool and all, you're in IB, and you're probably a fucking nerd, but no dude, you probably could not have fucked shit either way ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

I hate to say it but so many of you kids on here think that if you didn't pay so much attention to your studies that you could've fucked ass but that's just not true lmao.

The real ones can get a 3.5+ (myself) and still fuck tons of ass. It takes a different breed to live the best of both worlds lmao, I'm sorry that couldn't of been of you, I'm no trying to be a dick I'm just speaking facts

Nov 12, 2021 - 4:21am

I could this I could that, shut the fuck up and live your fucking life with no regrets pussy.

You sound like such a bitch dude, go fuck lmao you only have ONE life ONE fucking life man. Relax on your stupid gen ed class and go try and fuck some ass dude.

I'm just being real with you man. You need to fuck some pussy before you consider yourself to be a legit man.

There's gonna be kids on here going against me, probably because they're fucking virgins too.

But I'm telling you man, life is TOO short to focus on only school and work.

Go get fucking laid buddy. Work and money isn't the only thing in life

  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Gen
Nov 12, 2021 - 11:17am

not too difficult to find the balance between partying and studying/working hard if you find the right crowd

Nov 12, 2021 - 2:17pm

I dunno man, sounds like you're trying to convince yourself rather than us. Nothing wrong with what you said overall; it's good to have a high degree of conscientiousness and long term orientation. But maybe frame things from a more positive angle; life is too short to miserably grind.ย 

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