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Oct 8, 2016 - 2:04pm

Theoritical responses? This is the right forum to post such a topic... Right? Becuase it clearly says wall-street, this question is interesting for those who are interested in it, but thanks for the extra reply anyway.

What is a Signature?
Oct 10, 2016 - 6:42pm

Riegle–Neal Interstate Banking and Branching Efficiency Act institutes a deposit cap.

A bank holding company could not control more than 10 percent of the nation’s total deposits, or 30 percent of any single state’s total deposits, unless a state elected to establish its own deposit cap above or below this 30 percent limit.

JPM is already above 10 percent threshold. Banks can grow organically above 10% threshold but can't merge if the combined threshold >10% percent.

Oct 10, 2016 - 12:18pm

This is like asking what would happen if Mars crashed into Earth. You don't need to post on an astronomy board to come to the conclusion that it is just a dumb question.

Oct 15, 2016 - 1:31am


My theory is that they would re brand as one of (but not limited to) the following:

1. JP Goldman Chases Snacks & Co. & Co.

2. Prestige Worldwide (wide, wide, wide)

3. HYP

4. Goldman Chase & Co's Snacks

5. #BetterThanMorganStanley

6. The Illuminati Club

My initial guesses would be #2 or #3

The (wide, wide, wide) part gets me every damn time I hear it.

Oct 10, 2016 - 11:34pm

JackTheBad to give you a serious answer, as others have mentioned if the DOJ doesn't attempt to block this (even if both firms sell large amounts of assets or divisions) the MSM and or SJW/anti-Wall Street crowd would go absolutely bananas and create such a backlash that any politician that is remotely ok with this will probably wind up committing political suicide.

Bloomberg did have a good article on plausible bank mergers that I recommend you and others read:…

I don't know enough about the industry to ascertain if the above is possible or even makes sense but they do make some good arguments for mergers in the banking industry.

Oct 11, 2016 - 4:08pm

Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon would have a jousting match down the center of Wall Street to see who would remain Chairman & CEO and who would be downgraded to the lowly position of COO.

The fool thinks himself to be a wise man, while the wise man thinks himself to be a fool.
Oct 11, 2016 - 4:32pm

Blankfein is a short little guy and therefore a smaller target, more elusive. However, Dimon is of Greek descent and therefore has ancestral ties to the Spartans, who were experts with spears. I'm going with Dimon as well.

The fool thinks himself to be a wise man, while the wise man thinks himself to be a fool.
Oct 11, 2016 - 4:19pm

TippyTop11 not trying to argue semantics but isn't GS a full-service IB whereas JP Morgan is more of a money center bank/retail (deposit focused)?

If it weren't for there sheer size and public scrutiny I would imagine a merger wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility? I don't know how big Lehman or Bear were at the time but I imagine if GS was around their size it could be possible.

Oct 15, 2016 - 7:10pm

the duty for these two big investment corporate are totally different. GS is more global business, JP is more focus on small client. If they are going to merge together, I think it would screw up.

English man in WSO, fresh off the boat.
Oct 15, 2016 - 7:39pm

Why would they even merge? I doubt the government would allow for two large banks to merge in a time of non crisis.

If by some chance it did happen they'd create a very large bank. This bank, in turn, would be a super dominate force in the markets.Chances are it would change the face banking around the world and would force the mergers of more banks creating "super" bank as the only way to compete. But again various government agencies wouldn't allow for this in a time of non crisis.

I'm not a real banker though...
Oct 15, 2016 - 10:19pm

What if Pakistan and India stopped hating each other and merged back into one country? What would happen if America returned to centrist common sense politics? What would happen if we stopped having an insanely large and harsh judicial system? All the possibilities above have a higher chance of happening then JPM and GS merging into one company (maybe not India/Pak but still).

Oct 17, 2016 - 12:28am

A slew of posts about "Which are the most preftigious groups at JPMGS&Co.?"

This part of my life. . .is called "Running"
Oct 18, 2016 - 2:51pm

I am very disappointed with the answers.

Well done guys for pointing out the obvious that it is not going to happen and that the government would not allow it anyhow- you guys are very smart and real legends.

But are you capable of thinking further than that , in a fictional scenario what would it mean for other banks, customers , finance in general ?

Oct 18, 2016 - 3:31pm

GS_ER given the nature of this board (I'm generalizing here) I don't think anyone should be surprised at the answers given because the likelihood of something like this even happening are slim to none.

The world economy would need to be in the gutter (something that makes 2008 Financial Crisis look like child's play) in order for anyone to even entertain an idea of GS and JPM merging or one acquiring the other.

To answer your post, some users did lay out good explanations for why this wouldn't make sense such as marthcantip and many others.

Oct 18, 2016 - 8:16pm

@GS_ER I'm sorry you can't imagine something so incredibly basic. The answer you're looking for falls in line with something like what if Goku fought Superman who would win. It's dumb because:
A). It's never happening
B). Fanboys will cry that Actually Goku would transform into Super Saiyan God while Superman is somehow stronger.
C). Who cares

Why did you even make this topic. This should have been a thought experiment.

I'm not a real banker though...
Oct 18, 2016 - 10:20pm

Elizabeth Warren would renounce her US citizenship and likely move to Canada, probably forcing her to be no longer eligible for the credit union she almost certainly uses for personal banking now

Oct 20, 2016 - 10:52am
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