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Disclaimer: I like/respect men and I think I know a decent bit about them after years of living/working with them.

But after reading all the posts about how you guys on WSO work on your musculature, I feel like there's something I'm just not getting, and I'm asking you guys to do me a solid and explain it to me.

Obviously bodybuilding is an obsession with a certain segment of dudes, but most of you guys don't seem like bodybuilders. Do you regular, non-bodybuilder, non-athlete guys feel that muscle really matters? As in long-term, are you guys gonna be caring/tracking/working on your musculature in your 30s/40s? If so, why?

I know some guys do it because they think it helps them with chicks. Thing is, I haven't noticed chicks really caring that much. I understand not wanting your guy to be fat, but I thought the general consensus among girls was that dudes with too much muscle mass or definition were kinda vain/gay/icky. I personally will not touch a man who has a six pack... it grosses me out for some reason. (Ditto if I ever catch him touching/stroking/checking his own muscles. That's gonna be a guy who's more into his own body than mine. Would probably also watch himself in the mirror during sex.) This is all evidence that you guys don't actually do the muscle thing for the chicks.

And it makes sense that you wouldn't do it just for the chicks anyway. World's full of chicks; many of them are easy. Nobody likes to work hard for something easy.

No, it's obvious that you guys like being muscled for non-chick reasons... just like you like driving nice cars for non-chick reasons. Girls don't make the world go round.

It's gotta be something else, something innate to male tastes.

Maybe it's one more way to show status/excellence, like a GPA or a nice house/car?

Is it something that testosterone pushes you to do? Just a biological/chemical holdover from the days when you had to kick ass just to survive?

Does it help you get/keep a job? More muscle = faster metabolism = better worker somehow?

Is it self-competition? Competition with other dudes?

Or is it attractive because it's something you can control/improve every day regardless of how chaotic your life is?

Or am I just wrong and all chicks but me and my friends really do dig muscle?

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Comments (147)

  • sayandarula's picture

    if i've learned one thing about women, it's that they have absolutely no idea what they want in a man. they say one thing (and probably believe it) but secretly want something else.

    Money Never Sleeps? More like Money Never SUCKS amirite?!?!?!?

  • WSOusername's picture

    I enjoy lifting because it compensates for the fact that I'm hung like a light switch.

    GBS

  • 21 Lives's picture

    My problem with people who only lift weights, is that they aren't really training for anything (other than future lifting). Whats the point of doing bicep curls 3x a week? So you can enter the grocery bag carrying Olympics?

    I think you answered most of your question with this one.

    bankerella:
    Or is it attractive because it's something you can control/improve every day regardless of how chaotic your life is?

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  • animalz's picture

    based on your post, i see that you have no clue about the sports or even life as a whole

    such a materialistic point of view on every single thing makes me sad

    take a trip to brasil, enjoy sex with muscular men training jiujitsu or something.. experience some life
    and try sports, its good for your well being.. do it for the sake of it, not for the status/prestige/chick/salary etc.

    it is the way of life
    muscular bankers that do it for the looks or to get into their bosses ass do not know anything about sports - sweat, tears, pain, joy, team, confidence, health etc

    they are mostly little skinny betas that are reading muscle magazines thinking that they can look same as the cover model if they pay for the training guide, but dont realize that they got small or no balls and no real willpower and inferior genetics

  • In reply to 21 Lives
    J_monkey's picture

    21 Lives:
    My problem with people who only lift weights, is that they aren't really training for anything (other than future lifting). Whats the point of doing bicep curls 3x a week? So you can enter the grocery bag carrying Olympics?

    I think you answered most of your question with this one.

    bankerella:
    Or is it attractive because it's something you can control/improve every day regardless of how chaotic your life is?

    doing biceps for 3 times a week is over training and will not help gaining bicep mass.

    I lift because I like the feeling of working towards a goal. When I see the results, there is a sense of accomplishment.
    Besides, working out in general produces Endorphins which make you happy.

  • Disincentivy's picture

    Those who lift religiously and want to look like professional body builders do it because they are passionate about it.

    Guys who lift moderately and are ripped/sculpted are hot and they do it to look hot and. Chicks like hot men, and I will take a 6 pack over a "soft" tummy any day.

    Not all women have your preferences, Bankerella.

    I may not be on the Jedi Council, but I sure am great with the Force.

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  • In reply to Disincentivy
    animalz's picture

    Disincentivy:
    Those who lift religiously and want to look like professional body builders do it because they are passionate about it.

    Guys who lift moderately and are ripped/sculpted are hot and they do it to look hot and. Chicks like hot men, and I will take a 6 pack over a "soft" tummy any day.

    Not all women have your preferences, Bankerella.

    this.

    and i will guess that extremely small percentage of the men have Bankerella as a preference

  • Fredbird's picture

    "Ditto if I ever catch him touching/stroking/checking his own muscles. That's gonna be a guy who's more into his own body than mine. Would probably also watch himself in the mirror during sex."

    Seriously, OP?

    I'm not a Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark (although I love Batman and Iron Man - billionaire CEOs at day, superheroes at night. What more can you want?), but squatting +350lb and doing dumbbell bench presses with 120lb each (well, last summer numbers before having to take a 10 months break. Just recently started a journey to get back there, which will probably take until Christmas the earliest, ugh) I feel entitled to an opinion:

    It's awesome. I just like to walk around knowing I graduated best in class, can lift some heavy ass weights and can knock or choke people out. Gives you an ego the size of Manhattan, not neccessarily in a cocky but a confident way.

    Maybe something went wrong in my childhood, who knows. Maybe it's just my sports background, trying to always compete and be the best in whatever I do.

  • Fredbird's picture

    On a side note: Christian Bale in American Psycho and Brad Pitt in Fight Club are NOT MUSCULAR. These characters are just skinny ba*tards.

  • In reply to Fredbird
    animalz's picture

    Fredbird:
    "Ditto if I ever catch him touching/stroking/checking his own muscles. That's gonna be a guy who's more into his own body than mine. Would probably also watch himself in the mirror during sex."

    Seriously, OP?

    I'm not a Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark (although I love Batman and Iron Man - billionaire CEOs at day, superheroes at night. What more can you want?), but squatting +350lb and doing dumbbell bench presses with 120lb each (well, last summer numbers before having to take a 10 months break. Just recently started a journey to get back there, which will probably take until Christmas the earliest, ugh) I feel entitled to an opinion:

    It's awesome. I just like to walk around knowing I graduated best in class, can lift some heavy ass weights and can knock or choke people out. Gives you an ego the size of Manhattan, not neccessarily in a cocky but a confident way.

    Maybe something went wrong in my childhood, who knows. Maybe it's just my sports background, trying to always compete and be the best in whatever I do.

    another noob not having any clue

    yes, it is great to lift a lot, i enjoy it too
    but, to quote a legend:

    " You can bench press 500 pounds congratulations!!.......i can kick your ass"
    - Bas Rutten

    yeah, u might scare someone from time to time, or be able to move a sofa or something
    but even a regular 120lbs martial artist kick the s*it out of you..

  • Unforseen's picture

    I look a little bit like Brad Pitt in Fight Club and a lot like Jack Black in Tropic Thunder

  • In reply to Fredbird
    Value_added's picture

    Fredbird:
    "Ditto if I ever catch him touching/stroking/checking his own muscles. That's gonna be a guy who's more into his own body than mine. Would probably also watch himself in the mirror during sex."

    Seriously, OP?

    I'm not a Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark (although I love Batman and Iron Man - billionaire CEOs at day, superheroes at night. What more can you want?), but squatting +350lb and doing dumbbell bench presses with 120lb each (well, last summer numbers before having to take a 10 months break. Just recently started a journey to get back there, which will probably take until Christmas the earliest, ugh) I feel entitled to an opinion:

    It's awesome. I just like to walk around knowing I graduated best in class, can lift some heavy ass weights and can knock or choke people out. Gives you an ego the size of Manhattan, not neccessarily in a cocky but a confident way.

    Maybe something went wrong in my childhood, who knows. Maybe it's just my sports background, trying to always compete and be the best in whatever I do.

    Bro you forgot to drop your deadlift stats too

  • whateverittakes's picture

    It's fun and empowering. I like knowing that I'm a light dude who can pull a 4-handle from the floor. And I could care less if chicks don't get it. I know how special an accomplishment it is, and the thrill is most definitely real.

  • Buddyfox's picture

    disclaimer: i am no meathead. i workout 4-5 days a week for about an hour (excluding cardio) to maintain and stay in shape.

    1. the endorphines released when working out help me stay sane and put me in an all around better mood.
    2. i have respect for myself and will not allow myself to turn into the stereotypical fat american
    3. girls like it, because it helps in bed
    4. its nice to be able to stick up for yourself/friend/girl in the event of an unpredicted hostile situation

  • In reply to animalz
    Fredbird's picture

    animalz:
    Fredbird:
    "Ditto if I ever catch him touching/stroking/checking his own muscles. That's gonna be a guy who's more into his own body than mine. Would probably also watch himself in the mirror during sex."

    Seriously, OP?

    I'm not a Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark (although I love Batman and Iron Man - billionaire CEOs at day, superheroes at night. What more can you want?), but squatting +350lb and doing dumbbell bench presses with 120lb each (well, last summer numbers before having to take a 10 months break. Just recently started a journey to get back there, which will probably take until Christmas the earliest, ugh) I feel entitled to an opinion:

    It's awesome. I just like to walk around knowing I graduated best in class, can lift some heavy ass weights and can knock or choke people out. Gives you an ego the size of Manhattan, not neccessarily in a cocky but a confident way.

    Maybe something went wrong in my childhood, who knows. Maybe it's just my sports background, trying to always compete and be the best in whatever I do.

    another noob not having any clue

    yes, it is great to lift a lot, i enjoy it too
    but, to quote a legend:

    " You can bench press 500 pounds congratulations!!.......i can kick your ass"
    - Bas Rutten

    yeah, u might scare someone from time to time, or be able to move a sofa or something
    but even a regular 120lbs martial artist kick the s*it out of you..


    While I never made it above white belt status in BJJ, I do have some years experience in muay thai and boxing, but thanks for your assessment.
  • In reply to Value_added
    animalz's picture

    Value_added:
    Fredbird:
    "Ditto if I ever catch him touching/stroking/checking his own muscles. That's gonna be a guy who's more into his own body than mine. Would probably also watch himself in the mirror during sex."

    Seriously, OP?

    I'm not a Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark (although I love Batman and Iron Man - billionaire CEOs at day, superheroes at night. What more can you want?), but squatting +350lb and doing dumbbell bench presses with 120lb each (well, last summer numbers before having to take a 10 months break. Just recently started a journey to get back there, which will probably take until Christmas the earliest, ugh) I feel entitled to an opinion:

    It's awesome. I just like to walk around knowing I graduated best in class, can lift some heavy ass weights and can knock or choke people out. Gives you an ego the size of Manhattan, not neccessarily in a cocky but a confident way.

    Maybe something went wrong in my childhood, who knows. Maybe it's just my sports background, trying to always compete and be the best in whatever I do.

    Bro you forgot to drop your deadlift stats too

    i got pregnant when i saw his stats...

    he is that full of testosterone.. sucha beast

  • NaderNazemi's picture

    We do it to stay healthy.
    It has nothing to do with women. At least not the first or second concern.
    At any rate, you can get women with money. How many guys do you see walking around naked showing off their bodies ? Unless of course they were gay.
    It all boils down to staying healthy and admiring oneself in the mirror.
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but the world does not revolve around females.

  • In reply to Value_added
    Fredbird's picture

    Value_added:
    Bro you forgot to drop your deadlift stats too

    Actually I never did heavy deadlifts, thanks to constant trouble in my sacro-iliac joint and subluxations in L4 and L5. Sorry for not obliging.
  • In reply to Fredbird
    oreos's picture

    Fredbird:
    Value_added:
    Bro you forgot to drop your deadlift stats too

    Actually I never did heavy deadlifts, thanks to constant trouble in my sacro-iliac joint and subluxations in L4 and L5. Sorry for not obliging.

    What a pussy, no bitches gunna want you now!

    "After you work on Wall Street it's a choice, would you rather work at McDonalds or on the sell-side? I would choose McDonalds over the sell-side." - David Tepper

  • aempirei's picture

    Why? Because you've only got one body and I plan on being active as long as I'm alive.

    What a dumb fucking question.

    My name is Nicky, but you can call me Dre.

  • Gangsta Killah Blood's picture

    To some degree it's about staying healthy and obviously looking good. Also, many people in Finance are highly insecure and feel they have to prove something to people or distinguish themselves from their co-workers as more "hetero/manly". Why are you obsessed with doing your nails?

  • That_Aston's picture

    If OP is being serious, this news is somewhat relieving to myself and presumably many others as well. That being said, I'm no lightweight but by no means cut/muscular either.

    To answer your question, some guys (mostly the douchebags) like to lift because they try to make a competition out of everything. Some guys (like myself) want to TRY, heavy emphasis on try, to stay healthy.

    Here to learn and hopefully pass on some knowledge as well. SB if I helped.

  • Whgm45's picture

    I enjoy being healthy and maintaining at least a semblance of the body I had in college. And when I go to the beach I don't want to be the flabby guy, I want to feel confident. Men and women work out to be attractive, confident, and healthy...simple as that

  • cplpayne's picture

    It has more to do with being an alpha male and competing against other alpha males than getting women. Anybody who is dedicated to working out will automatically size up a fellow gym rat when they see one.

    "One should recognize reality even when one doesn't like it, indeed, especially when one doesn't like it." - Charlie Munger

  • Angus Macgyver's picture

    I'm no bodybuilder, but I would like to stay within a healthy weight range. I've been hella overweight before, and I have no intention of ever going back that way again.

  • Relinquis's picture

    Women love fit men. Even the OP. I think she's just not aware, or maybe its sour grapes.

    I have been fit for most of my life, but had a year where I gained 20 kg (45 lbs) of deal fat and became overweight. I lost the weight the following year. A few things I learnt:

    - Women love lean guys. Girls laughed more at my comments (even the non-funny ones) and flirted a lot more when I was fit. A lot more touchy in all social situations. They also were a lot more aggressive in showing their sexual attraction (this applies even to women i didn't know). You can get away with a lot more when a woman finds you physically attractive.

    - Women who have already bonded with you or have a strong connection will not let your gaining weight completely turn them off, but when you lose the fat they will be a lot more appreciative.

    - Food tastes good. Gluttony is a lot of fun. To this day I believe that a good 5 course meal is better than sex with most women. I'd say only the top quartile of women are worth not being fat for... if that.

    - Your guy friends don't really care about your weight unless you make an issue of it / are insecure.

    - There is an ego factor of being fit. It's a good feeling.

    Here's a little test for the OP who says she doesn't like athletic guys. Why don't you name 5 famous guys you find attractive? I bet they're mostly fit guys, or at least thin / runner types.

  • In reply to Relinquis
    West Coast Analyst's picture

    Relinquis:

    - Food tastes good. Gluttony is a lot of fun. To this day I believe that a good 5 course meal is better than sex with most women.

    thats definitely your inner fatty speaking. they want the 20kg/45lbs back

  • dest149's picture

    Some people stay in shape to be healthy and look good. It's like saying why do women care so much about fashion? You have to have shoes for every outfit, I just don't get it. But women like to look good and sexy because it makes them feel more powerful and attractive (which is power of its own). It's the same thing with working out.
    On that note, a word to the wise that women still don't seem to understand after so many years of being with men. If you want us to listen to you, it's very simple. Just lift up your shirt (assuming no bra) and then begin to speak. I promise you will have any man's complete attention.
    - Cheers!

  • In reply to sayandarula
    Mr. Hansen's picture

    sayandarula:
    if i've learned one thing about women, it's that they have absolutely no idea what they want in a man. they say one thing (and probably believe it) but secretly want something else.

    I just want a nice, smart, successful guy who has a sense of humor. Is that too much for a girl to ask?
  • Brady4MVP's picture

    Girls actually don't care that much about a guy's body. But those muscle freaks think they do, so that drives them to be in the gym 24/7. Now I work out religiously, but that's because of health reasons, and I enjoy the adrenaline rush of lifting weights and doing cardio. I am under no illusion that having bigger biceps or ripped abs will help in terms of landing chicks.

  • In reply to Relinquis
    SlikRick's picture

    Relinquis:
    Women love fit men. Even the OP. I think she's just not aware, or maybe its sour grapes.

    I have been fit for most of my life, but had a year where I gained 20 kg (45 lbs) of deal fat and became overweight. I lost the weight the following year. A few things I learnt:

    - Women love lean guys. Girls laughed more at my comments (even the non-funny ones) and flirted a lot more when I was fit. A lot more touchy in all social situations. They also were a lot more aggressive in showing their sexual attraction (this applies even to women i didn't know). You can get away with a lot more when a woman finds you physically attractive.

    - Women who have already bonded with you or have a strong connection will not let your gaining weight completely turn them off, but when you lose the fat they will be a lot more appreciative.

    - Food tastes good. Gluttony is a lot of fun. To this day I believe that a good 5 course meal is better than sex with most women. I'd say only the top quartile of women are worth not being fat for... if that.

    - Your guy friends don't really care about your weight unless you make an issue of it / are insecure.

    - There is an ego factor of being fit. It's a good feeling.

    Here's a little test for the OP who says she doesn't like athletic guys. Why don't you name 5 famous guys you find attractive? I bet they're mostly fit guys, or at least thin / runner types.

    This is a solid response. I couldn't agree more. The benefits of working out and staying fit far outweigh the cons. Growing up, I was a good 35-40 pounds overweight, through most of high school. One day, I decided enough was enough and started a year long process to get into shape. Immediate benefits:

    1. You feel happier. Its a scientific fact. Working out releasing endorphins, which produce a chemical state of happiness within you.

    2. People respect you for it. One of the most satisfying things was the frequent compliments, from both guys and girls. People see that you care about your self-image and seriously view you in a different light for it.

    3. As Relinquis stated, conversations with girls become smoother and more enjoyable. You're more confident, you feel comfortable taking risks, girls appreciate the confidence, which leads to good endings...

    4. There's also selfish motivations. I'm a competitive person, and the same way I want to be the best at my job, I want to be the best at all other facets. I don't have stats to back it up, but I'm sure fit guys outperform fat guys at the workplace, for stamina/confidence/superficial reasons. If you make more money and look more attractive than another guy, you know he has nothing on you.

  • canuckmoney's picture

    lol OP I remember your stupid thread on the "douchiest" shit you've said.. I think you should include this

  • Jerome Kohlberg's picture

    I like lifting because I like being healthy. That's about it. Eating healthy food, being active, strong and cardiovascularly fit makes me feel good and improves the quality of my life in general and I feel bad when I don't exercise for a while or eat crappy foods. All the other stuff, like guys respecting you and chicks wanting you are just nice side benefits, really.

  • George87's picture

    Most of the girl friends I had in college and that I asked for their opinion on this topic, said that they really didn't care for guys who were ripped/super jacked... in fact, most found that to be unattractive. I think being lean bodied or fit is probably the default most attractive stance. As a general observation, I've noticed that the most thick-necked ripped/jacked guys walking around on the street, in clubs, events, etc. also have the most plastic-y girls by their sides (i.e. fake tan, lips, hair, and boobs)... deserving so i suppose. As long as you feel comfortable in your own body, you have nothing to worry about, confidence and self-worth come from the inside, and body image helps with that, but there are much bigger insecurities guys (and girls for that matter) need to overcome to attract the opposite sex, get away with little things, have their own way etc.

  • In reply to Brady4MVP
    Relinquis's picture

    Brady4MVP:
    Girls actually don't care that much about a guy's body. But those muscle freaks think they do, so that drives them to be in the gym 24/7. Now I work out religiously, but that's because of health reasons, and I enjoy the adrenaline rush of lifting weights and doing cardio. I am under no illusion that having bigger biceps or ripped abs will help in terms of landing chicks.

    I agree to some extent. Having a personality and knowing how to talk to a woman gives you a lot of leeway, but women do respond sexually to "lean" men. So athletic guys, or slim guys.

    Also, in terms of giving advise, it's easier to teach guys to eat less, run more and lift a few weights than to give them a personality and character.

  • Boreed's picture

    Exercise makes me happy and gets rid of any anxiety and stress I have. The side effect of which is a nice and strong body.

  • bankerella's picture

    Interesting responses. I'm hearing some people talk as if there were a single spectrum from muscular to fat.

    Is that really the case? I would argue that there is a spectrum from thin to fat, and a separate spectrum for muscle mass.

    Of course nobody wants to be a fatass, and everyone loves endorphins... but there is a difference between aiming to stay trim/healthy and aiming to be muscular.

    Or is there? Does increased muscle mass make you healthier?

  • awqtfq's picture
  • Downeasta's picture

    Just to make this clear, having a muscular physique or being in good shape does NOT make you a "bodybuilder". Bodybuilders dedicate their lives to two things: 1) Attaining the lowest bodyfat % possible while also 2 )Attaining the largest muscle mass possible. Oh, and the two things work against each other.

    I work out for 60-90 minutes, 4-6 days a week. Benefits:
    1) Endorphin rush
    2) My heart/lungs stay healthy
    3) I remain flexible
    4) The added musculature is useful in countless situations (Housework, self-defense, at the office, etc)
    5) More muscle (usually) means a higher metabolism, which helps to keep extra weight off
    6) Ladies like it, regardless of what the OP says.

    I am not/will never be one of those guys with an 8-pack and veins the size of garden hoses. I don't want to be. Most of the guys on here that talk about lifting weights/working out are doing so to stay in GOOD shape, not Olympian-shape.

  • Amphipathic's picture

    A cheetah needs strong muscles to catch the gazelle. A gorilla's spot in the pecking order depends on his strength, aggressiveness, and ability to utilize both to beat out the other contenders. The success of a man (at least in a civilized society with law and order) depends NOT on his physical strength, but the content of his mind and his ability to reason, allowing him to pursue his ends in a rational and self-possessed manner. A lot of women fail to make the distinction between men and animals.

  • In reply to bankerella
    J_monkey's picture

    bankerella:
    Interesting responses. I'm hearing some people talk as if there were a single spectrum from muscular to fat.

    Is that really the case? I would argue that there is a spectrum from thin to fat, and a separate spectrum for muscle mass.

    Of course nobody wants to be a fatass, and everyone loves endorphins... but there is a difference between aiming to stay trim/healthy and aiming to be muscular.

    Or is there? Does increased muscle mass make you healthier?

    Some research state that lifting weights is more beneficial than cardio for older people. Reduces the shoulder pain/back pain that old people experience.
    Obviously, doing both moderate lifting and cardio is best for your health.

  • canuckmoney's picture

    Working out definitely makes you feel good, thats enough reason right there.

    If I were to analyze why I pump, its probably got the most to do with confidence. Not narcissistic confidence in the sense I want to look better than others, but confidence in the sense I am setting goals and working to achieve them, same idea people have in most aspects of life.. just a different outlet to feel better about yourself. Who the fk dosent wanna get their swell on.

  • In reply to Angus Macgyver
    aempirei's picture

    Angus Macgyver:
    I'm no bodybuilder, but I would like to stay within a healthy weight range. I've been hella overweight before, and I have no intention of ever going back that way again.

    west_coast_rainmaker is that you?

    My name is Nicky, but you can call me Dre.

  • BillyRay05's picture

    So...

    Youre a female in banking, so let me dissect your physique:

    Played soccer or some other bullsh*t boring sport in HS. Stayed in relatively good shape through college due to metabolism and alcohol. First year out of undergrad, you lost it. You're not 'fat', but you can tell that you have a slight gut under your pull over. You're pretty self conscious about wearing pencil skirts or form fitting outfits. Sure, you may do some yoga once or twice a month, but this is simply in vain, bc right afterwards you down a large vanilla latte at the 'bucks with 800 calories. The muscular/ripped guys don't normally approach you, but that doesn't matter, you don't like them anyway (not srs). You keep telling yourself that the skinny fat guy in the corner is more your speed, because you know he has no place critiquing your body...

    Most guys gain muscle for both looks and health- I mean girls don't goto strip clubs to watch J Bieber's prancing about... But whatever the case may be, it leads to people being more healthy, so why knock it? Also, there is nothing more displeasing to me than seeing the typical skinny fat American... No muscle mass at all AND a gut? Worse thing ever.

    "Sounds to me like you guys a couple of bookies."

  • In reply to bankerella
    Downeasta's picture

    bankerella:

    Of course nobody wants to be a fatass, and everyone loves endorphins... but there is a difference between aiming to stay trim/healthy and aiming to be muscular.

    Or is there? Does increased muscle mass make you healthier?

    Staying trim/healthy is easier when you have more muscle. The added muscle burns more calories passively, which means you can eat more without gaining weight.

    And yes, I'd say that increased muscle mass makes you healthier, within reason and as long as it was obtained naturally. I'm pretty sure that the huge guys who are bench pressing upwards of 800lbs, or have 3% body fat aren't exactly healthy.

    I'd say a bodyfat from 7-15%ish is pretty healthy, along with muscle mass suitable for the person's physical limits.

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  • F. Ro Jo's picture

    bankerella:

    It's gotta be something else, something innate to male testes.

    corrected for you

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