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Why do wall street guys love muscles? Help a girl get a clue.
 

bankerella's picture
IB
(King Kong, 1,863
 
Points)
 on 6/27/12 at 10:00pm
Muscle

Disclaimer: I like/respect men and I think I know a decent bit about them after years of living/working with them.

But after reading all the posts about how you guys on WSO work on your musculature, I feel like there's something I'm just not getting, and I'm asking you guys to do me a solid and explain it to me.

Obviously bodybuilding is an obsession with a certain segment of dudes, but most of you guys don't seem like bodybuilders. Do you regular, non-bodybuilder, non-athlete guys feel that muscle really matters? As in long-term, are you guys gonna be caring/tracking/working on your musculature in your 30s/40s? If so, why?

I know some guys do it because they think it helps them with chicks. Thing is, I haven't noticed chicks really caring that much. I understand not wanting your guy to be fat, but I thought the general consensus among girls was that dudes with too much muscle mass or definition were kinda vain/gay/icky. I personally will not touch a man who has a six pack... it grosses me out for some reason. (Ditto if I ever catch him touching/stroking/checking his own muscles. That's gonna be a guy who's more into his own body than mine. Would probably also watch himself in the mirror during sex.) This is all evidence that you guys don't actually do the muscle thing for the chicks.

And it makes sense that you wouldn't do it just for the chicks anyway. World's full of chicks; many of them are easy. Nobody likes to work hard for something easy.

No, it's obvious that you guys like being muscled for non-chick reasons... just like you like driving nice cars for non-chick reasons. Girls don't make the world go round.

It's gotta be something else, something innate to male tastes.

Maybe it's one more way to show status/excellence, like a GPA or a nice house/car?

Is it something that testosterone pushes you to do? Just a biological/chemical holdover from the days when you had to kick ass just to survive?

Does it help you get/keep a job? More muscle = faster metabolism = better worker somehow?

Is it self-competition? Competition with other dudes?

Or is it attractive because it's something you can control/improve every day regardless of how chaotic your life is?

Or am I just wrong and all chicks but me and my friends really do dig muscle?

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blastoise's picture

Don't worry OP it's because

O
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 12:51pm

Don't worry OP it's because you're a lesbian, explains why you in banking.

sayandarula's picture

if i've learned one thing

O
(King Kong, 1,809
 
Points)
 on 6/27/12 at 12:51pm

if i've learned one thing about women, it's that they have absolutely no idea what they want in a man. they say one thing (and probably believe it) but secretly want something else.

Money Never Sleeps? More like Money Never SUCKS amirite?!?!?!?

WSOusername's picture

I enjoy lifting because it

 
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 on 6/27/12 at 12:53pm

I enjoy lifting because it compensates for the fact that I'm hung like a light switch.

GBS

21 Lives's picture

My problem with people who

(Orangutan, 266
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 2:01pm

My problem with people who only lift weights, is that they aren't really training for anything (other than future lifting). Whats the point of doing bicep curls 3x a week? So you can enter the grocery bag carrying Olympics?

I think you answered most of your question with this one.

bankerella:

Or is it attractive because it's something you can control/improve every day regardless of how chaotic your life is?

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animalz's picture

based on your post, i see

(Gorilla, 707
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 2:57pm

based on your post, i see that you have no clue about the sports or even life as a whole

such a materialistic point of view on every single thing makes me sad

take a trip to brasil, enjoy sex with muscular men training jiujitsu or something.. experience some life
and try sports, its good for your well being.. do it for the sake of it, not for the status/prestige/chick/salary etc.

it is the way of life
muscular bankers that do it for the looks or to get into their bosses ass do not know anything about sports - sweat, tears, pain, joy, team, confidence, health etc

they are mostly little skinny betas that are reading muscle magazines thinking that they can look same as the cover model if they pay for the training guide, but dont realize that they got small or no balls and no real willpower and inferior genetics

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21 Lives: My problem with

O
(Baboon, 165
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 2:56pm
21 Lives:

My problem with people who only lift weights, is that they aren't really training for anything (other than future lifting). Whats the point of doing bicep curls 3x a week? So you can enter the grocery bag carrying Olympics?

I think you answered most of your question with this one.

bankerella:

Or is it attractive because it's something you can control/improve every day regardless of how chaotic your life is?

doing biceps for 3 times a week is over training and will not help gaining bicep mass.

I lift because I like the feeling of working towards a goal. When I see the results, there is a sense of accomplishment.
Besides, working out in general produces Endorphins which make you happy.

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Those who lift religiously

VC
(Gorilla, 713
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 2:59pm

Those who lift religiously and want to look like professional body builders do it because they are passionate about it.

Guys who lift moderately and are ripped/sculpted are hot and they do it to look hot and. Chicks like hot men, and I will take a 6 pack over a "soft" tummy any day.

Not all women have your preferences, Bankerella.

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animalz's picture

Disincentivy: Those who lift

(Gorilla, 707
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:01pm
Disincentivy:

Those who lift religiously and want to look like professional body builders do it because they are passionate about it.

Guys who lift moderately and are ripped/sculpted are hot and they do it to look hot and. Chicks like hot men, and I will take a 6 pack over a "soft" tummy any day.

Not all women have your preferences, Bankerella.

this.

and i will guess that extremely small percentage of the men have Bankerella as a preference

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"Ditto if I ever catch him

(Baboon, 129
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:02pm

"Ditto if I ever catch him touching/stroking/checking his own muscles. That's gonna be a guy who's more into his own body than mine. Would probably also watch himself in the mirror during sex."

Seriously, OP?

I'm not a Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark (although I love Batman and Iron Man - billionaire CEOs at day, superheroes at night. What more can you want?), but squatting +350lb and doing dumbbell bench presses with 120lb each (well, last summer numbers before having to take a 10 months break. Just recently started a journey to get back there, which will probably take until Christmas the earliest, ugh) I feel entitled to an opinion:

It's awesome. I just like to walk around knowing I graduated best in class, can lift some heavy ass weights and can knock or choke people out. Gives you an ego the size of Manhattan, not neccessarily in a cocky but a confident way.

Maybe something went wrong in my childhood, who knows. Maybe it's just my sports background, trying to always compete and be the best in whatever I do.

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On a side note: Christian

(Baboon, 129
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:04pm

On a side note: Christian Bale in American Psycho and Brad Pitt in Fight Club are NOT MUSCULAR. These characters are just skinny ba*tards.

animalz's picture

Fredbird: "Ditto if I ever

(Gorilla, 707
 
Points)
 on 6/27/12 at 3:08pm
Fredbird:

"Ditto if I ever catch him touching/stroking/checking his own muscles. That's gonna be a guy who's more into his own body than mine. Would probably also watch himself in the mirror during sex."

Seriously, OP?

I'm not a Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark (although I love Batman and Iron Man - billionaire CEOs at day, superheroes at night. What more can you want?), but squatting +350lb and doing dumbbell bench presses with 120lb each (well, last summer numbers before having to take a 10 months break. Just recently started a journey to get back there, which will probably take until Christmas the earliest, ugh) I feel entitled to an opinion:

It's awesome. I just like to walk around knowing I graduated best in class, can lift some heavy ass weights and can knock or choke people out. Gives you an ego the size of Manhattan, not neccessarily in a cocky but a confident way.

Maybe something went wrong in my childhood, who knows. Maybe it's just my sports background, trying to always compete and be the best in whatever I do.

another noob not having any clue

yes, it is great to lift a lot, i enjoy it too
but, to quote a legend:

" You can bench press 500 pounds congratulations!!.......i can kick your ass"
- Bas Rutten

yeah, u might scare someone from time to time, or be able to move a sofa or something
but even a regular 120lbs martial artist kick the s*it out of you..

Unforseen's picture

I look a little bit like Brad

(King Kong, 1,099
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:09pm

I look a little bit like Brad Pitt in Fight Club and a lot like Jack Black in Tropic Thunder

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Value_added's picture

Fredbird: "Ditto if I ever

O
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:10pm
Fredbird:

"Ditto if I ever catch him touching/stroking/checking his own muscles. That's gonna be a guy who's more into his own body than mine. Would probably also watch himself in the mirror during sex."

Seriously, OP?

I'm not a Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark (although I love Batman and Iron Man - billionaire CEOs at day, superheroes at night. What more can you want?), but squatting +350lb and doing dumbbell bench presses with 120lb each (well, last summer numbers before having to take a 10 months break. Just recently started a journey to get back there, which will probably take until Christmas the earliest, ugh) I feel entitled to an opinion:

It's awesome. I just like to walk around knowing I graduated best in class, can lift some heavy ass weights and can knock or choke people out. Gives you an ego the size of Manhattan, not neccessarily in a cocky but a confident way.

Maybe something went wrong in my childhood, who knows. Maybe it's just my sports background, trying to always compete and be the best in whatever I do.

Bro you forgot to drop your deadlift stats too

whateverittakes's picture

It's fun and empowering. I

IB
(King Kong, 1,056
 
Points)
 on 6/27/12 at 3:11pm

It's fun and empowering. I like knowing that I'm a light dude who can pull a 4-handle from the floor. And I could care less if chicks don't get it. I know how special an accomplishment it is, and the thrill is most definitely real.

Buddyfox's picture

disclaimer: i am no meathead.

O
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:11pm

disclaimer: i am no meathead. i workout 4-5 days a week for about an hour (excluding cardio) to maintain and stay in shape.

1. the endorphines released when working out help me stay sane and put me in an all around better mood.
2. i have respect for myself and will not allow myself to turn into the stereotypical fat american
3. girls like it, because it helps in bed
4. its nice to be able to stick up for yourself/friend/girl in the event of an unpredicted hostile situation

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animalz: Fredbird: "Ditto

(Baboon, 129
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:11pm
animalz's picture

Value_added: Fredbird: "Dit

(Gorilla, 707
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:11pm
NaderNazemi's picture

We do it to stay healthy. It

(Chimp, 4
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:12pm
Fredbird's picture

Value_added: Bro you forgot

(Baboon, 129
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:12pm
Oreos's picture

Fredbird: Value_added: Bro

HF
(Neanderthal, 2,454
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:20pm
aempirei's picture

Why? Because you've only got

IB
(Gorilla, 726
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:20pm

My name is Nicky, but you can call me Dre.

Gangsta Killah Blood's picture

To some degree it’s about

(Monkey, 40
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:21pm
That_Aston's picture

If OP is being serious, this

CF
(Gorilla, 574
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:22pm

Here to learn and hopefully pass on some knowledge as well. SB if I helped.

Whgm45's picture

I enjoy being healthy and

ST
(Orangutan, 301
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:22pm
pickle's picture

OP is essentially saying

(Monkey, 44
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:27pm
cplpayne's picture

It has more to do with being

IB
(Gorilla, 518
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:29pm

"One should recognize reality even when one doesn't like it, indeed, especially when one doesn't like it." - Charlie Munger

Angus Macgyver's picture

I'm no bodybuilder, but I

IB
(Gorilla, 716
 
Points)
 on 6/27/12 at 3:30pm
Relinquis's picture

Women love fit men. Even the

RE
(Neanderthal, 2,186
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:34pm

relinquis... Killing the GMAT this December; Over/Under set at: 725 GMATs.

awqtfq's picture

.

(Orangutan, 250
 
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 on 10/15/12 at 8:23pm
West Coast Analyst's picture

Relinquis: - Food tastes

CF
(Orangutan, 304
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:45pm
dest149's picture

Some people stay in shape to

ST
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:52pm
Mr. Hansen's picture

sayandarula: if i've learned

(Gorilla, 519
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 3:59pm
Brady4MVP's picture

Girls actually don't care

HF
(Neanderthal, 3,161
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:01pm
SlikRick's picture

Relinquis: Women love fit

CO
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:05pm
canuckmoney's picture

lol OP I remember your stupid

HF
(Monkey, 39
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:10pm
Jerome Kohlberg's picture

I like lifting because I like

PE
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:11pm
George87's picture

Most of the girl friends I

IB
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:12pm
Relinquis's picture

Brady4MVP: Girls actually

RE
(Neanderthal, 2,186
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:13pm

relinquis... Killing the GMAT this December; Over/Under set at: 725 GMATs.

Boreed's picture

Exercise makes me happy and

PE
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:17pm

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bankerella's picture

Interesting responses. I'm

IB
(King Kong, 1,863
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:24pm

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awqtfq's picture

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(Orangutan, 250
 
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 on 10/15/12 at 8:24pm
Downeasta's picture

Just to make this clear,

IB
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:25pm
Amphipathic's picture

A cheetah needs strong

 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:32pm
J_monkey's picture

bankerella: Interesting

O
(Baboon, 165
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:32pm
canuckmoney's picture

Working out definitely makes

HF
(Monkey, 39
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:33pm
aempirei's picture

Angus Macgyver: I'm no

IB
(Gorilla, 726
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:35pm

My name is Nicky, but you can call me Dre.

BillyRay05's picture

So... Youre a female in

ST
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:35pm

"Sounds to me like you guys a couple of bookies."

Downeasta's picture

bankerella: Of course nobody

IB
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:35pm
OMS's picture

its an art

PE
(King Kong, 1,886
 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:38pm
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bankerella: It's gotta be

 
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 on 6/27/12 at 4:38pm

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