Q&A: US Power Trader (Prop/HF)
Hey WSO, 5y into my career and currently on garden leave after a 3y+ stint at a US power shop. Hoping to give a little bit of insight into the industry as others on here did for me a few years back. Most of my experience is in DA/RT (INC/DEC, PTP/UTC) and FTRs, along with cash & term on ICE. Feel free to ask (almost) anything, obviously some specifics I can't get into but DITL, career progression, comp, general view on the industry/market right now is all fair game.
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Sources: Q&A: Director of Energy Trading, energy trader, do I move?, Physical Trading: Best commodities to be in?, Trading Power, Carbon & NGOs
Did you work at a utility before hopping to a hedge fund ?
I worked at a research firm before I got my first trading seat, but I've had a number of colleagues over the years who came from utilities/asset owners. The path of RT -> DA/RT -> Cash -> Term still holds true for a lot of traders, especially those who choose to go the utility/asset owner route, but for speculative trading I've found that more and more shops are hiring out of grad/undergrad, especially those who lean on the quant side.
It's a pretty small sample size, but I've noticed that those making the jump from trading around an asset to trading pure spec struggle more than someone starting fresh, just incredibly different trading styles.
Research firm as in like wood mackenzie ??????
Thanks for doing this
From a trader's POV, this has basically no impact. Base-load gen is always going to be at the bottom of the stack and will basically never set price, so worst case scenario is this shifts the curve to the left, we see less volatility for a bit until older coal/nat-gas units are retired and we see volatility a bit more.
From an economics perspective, I don't see these being cost-effective for at least another 5-10y. The first batch are going to be subsidized by VCs and are essentially proof-of-concepts. The next batch will hit the headwinds of NIMBYs and are still likely less cost-effective than just securing a firm contract.
What’s your opinion of being at a utility long-term? I’ve heard mixed opinions.
What’s your view on trading on the West Coast, specifically the Pacific Northwest?
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