So....What're We Buying These Days?

Fun times in the market right now huh? Curious where people are deploying capital (if any) and why they're targeting whatever they're targeting. My 2 cents (literally what they're worth these days...):

  1. I'm waiting to see how the rest of the big tech companies report the next couple of days. Google and Microsoft had decent quarters, but Google I believe missed guidance and is dropping. I'm a bit worried that these Megacap companies missing could trigger another downward move in the market just because they such big components of the S&P by weight. I personally am not buying any more dips until I see what shakes out from Amazon, Apple, and Facebook especially as well as how the market reacts.

  2. My overall prediction is we have a sideways to slightly down market that is going to slowly move downward. It's in sharp contrast to the COVID bust where we dropped into bear territory in a matter of days/weeks. Barring some unforeseen outside catalyst (like Nuclear War - which I guess isn't impossible anymore), I don't think any recession we have would be severe. We still have a fairly robust labor market and many firms in finance, consulting, tech, etc. still seem to be desperate for talent. That said, these positive effects I'd imagine are going to be slightly offset by rising rates, which will reset valuations (negative wealth effect) and make debt/expansion more tricky to come by. 

  3. Given the above, I'm looking to avoid any long-duration assets (i.e. growth whose cash flows are going to deferred further into the future or long-term bonds) and mostly want to buy companies that are trading at reasonable multiples (avoids the valuation reset risk), generating cash flow now, and potentially growing their dividend/otherwise giving me some income in case the market trades kind of sideways or we see minimal growth. I also like commodities or hard assets because I want to take advantage of firms that have pricing power (i.e. relatively inelastic demand for products), given supply chains are now going to potentially get crushed even further if China shuts down over COVID.

  4. Names I'm buying are $VIG (generic place to park my money since dividend growth is a (weak) proxy for health and to generate income), Oil/Gas (anyone have good nat gas plays - already own $EOG and $CVX), maybe financials if yield curves start to steepen. I'm also looking at semis, since they've been absolutely beaten up lately (i.e. might be catching the bottom of the cycle) and but think they'll continue to be in huge demand long-term. The main ones I'm looking at are $MU, $SKWS, $AVGO, but open to other ideas. 

  5. Outside of this, I honestly have no idea what to do or where to park my money. This is the first time I feel like I have little conviction in anything because it feels like everything is getting crushed and it's not even great to be holding cash because it's getting inflated away quickly.

Happy to discuss any issues with my thoughts above and definitely want to hear what others are doing in these markets!

Region
 

In my PA - I savings bonds. If you buy before May 1, guaranteed ~8% by the us govt. You have to hold for min 1 year though. Fine by me since i dont see markets rallying any time soon

 

Buying China obviously. I expect a lot of emotional FOMO in 4-5 years whenever it's announced that China has officially surpassed the US in nominal GDP (just like Chinese stocks mooned in 2014 when they surpassed us in PPP).

 

Maxed out 401k to have general exposure to the market and my BB. Been doing that for years.

In my personal portfolio, I am direction neutral; just write spreads with low deltas. Requires me to be fairly active but I wrote a web interface that lets me manage it quickly. Next up I'm writing a txt app that will let me manage it even quicker, like my own personal order runner. I focus on high liquidity so it's all the usual suspects (QQQ, GLD, IWM, SPY, UNG, etc, etc) but again, direction neutral.  

 

Yeah, they don't make it easy but it's possible. I have to (1) use a broker they designate. Which is generally OK because it makes the reporting easy on me and the broker is good and (2) my BB publishes a "whitelist" of securities I can trade without a compliance check. I just take that list and put it in my scanner so I'm never "off script". So yeah, I'd like to be able to do TSLA all day but it's mostly broad ETFs that are allowed. But again, it still leaves me plenty to choose from with stuff like QQQ, SPY, USO, GLD, the XL* stuff, even ARKK is on there ;) . It's enough items to keep me interested and not run into issues.

 
Most Helpful

Situation

Fed is risking a recession in order to tame inflation after being grossly wrong about it by saying it was transitory. 

Aggregate demand will get affected and demand-pull inflation would decrease but rate hikes would do less to impact cost-push inflation.

Higher dollar and higher crude prices are risking sovereign debt problems around the world (look at Japanese yen to Siri Lankan high yield)

so central banks increasing rates all over the world means we are going towards slower global growth which affects the Chinese economy as well

conclusion

So in equities, the net exposure is negative towards the market, especially towards cyclical and sensitive sectors

(short tech, industrials, real estate, EM high yield debt, EM sovereign debt ) 

(long commodities, utilities, healthcare, energy )

Now, these are generic sectors, industries, and asset classes I mentioned

the effects differ by demographics and segmentation within these

for example, residential real estate and variable rentals, and industrial REITs are affected differently 

 

I definitely would trust an Investment Analyst in HF - Event-driven Investing haha

Exceptional analysis and market read. But are you not looking at emerging market especially countries with high commodities net export

 

Added more TQQQ today

If we keep dropping I’ll keep buying more

 

LEAPs on MSFT, GOOG, QQQ - started thinking about these today, still bit hesitant but it's likely a decent time to start buying in. Personally I'll probably wait a month or two

UNH - monopoly on health insurance for American corporate workers. protected by ridiculous and perpetually increasing medical costs in America

COST - inflation hedged business + cult-like customer base

 

Too early to buy in general. Fed will raise 50 bps next week and another 50 the following meeting.

The beating will continue until consumers cry uncle with demand destruction. So far, consumers are still hanging on, which means more beatings to come. The fed cant fix supply problems, so it will need to keep killing demand. It will take at least another quarter for consumers to pull back on spending. Beyond that, there is no visibility because it's all about Russia/China/Inflation.

With that said, if FB retest 171 and fails, then it will get interesting in the 150-165 range. That may be the buy of the year. 

 

What's the thesis on Facebook? I feel like it rallied over pretty meh earnings. The only reason it went up is because DAU returned to growth, but I didn't see anything that led me to believe those users are just as profitable as they were in the past. I feel like they're facing some headwinds with Tik-Tok because everyone uses that now instead of IG. To me, an investment in $FB is essentially betting they can kill Tik-Tok with Reels like they did with IG Stories to $SNAP. 

 

FB is the cheapest mega tech out there with 2B MAU. Bad news priced in.  It's fixable - any improvement to deal with AAPL will return multiples to 20x PE. Zuck purposely tanked the stock to get target off its back. No one is talking about regulating social media in congress now right? He paints tiktok as the enemy - it's only partly true. tiktok as the enemy is great way to remind congress if FB fails, then tiktok may win globally, which is undesirable for US policy.

Tiktok competes more with YT, as short-form video may take shares away from long-form video. Reels is new and not a competitor to tt. Reels and whatsapp have no monetization, so that's a possible upside down the line.

Founder led pluses are vision and execution, but hiccups are fixable. At 13-14x PE and mid-teens to lo 20s growth, this is the best value in megacap tech.    

 

I agree that it makes for a good short. But what's your case for zero? Seems a bit drastic to me since their buying model - as a whole - seems like a success. Perhaps not profitable yet, but still a winner. Surely it can avoid zero, no? 

 

A few points of my bear thesis (in no particular order):

1) Any insider have bought equity besides Garcias

2) They have really struggled to place the debt

3) Garcias inserted whole provision on the unsecured debt (which indeed has been mainly bought by themselves and Apollo)

4) Apollo will likley replace Ally finance to buy part of CVNA´s receivable

5) Interest expense already going up to >500m in FY22, a company with c. $12b mkt cap 

6) Interest rates increasing rapidly which really punishes their finco business (c. 55% GM in FY21) 

7) Used car pricing having already peaked

8) MGMT has removed FY22 guidance 

IMHO, people & SS don´t realize that CVNA has been over earning in FY21. They cannot be profitable in a non-zero interest rates environemt where delinquency rates are high. This is a finance company with a car division on it, not the other.  CVNA is a cash burn machine

 

Emerging market stocks

Indonesia, Malaysia  (Financial Services, Palm Oil)

Countries with net commodity export

Developed market stocks

China, Singapore (Chinese small cap tech only, Singapore large cap banks, REITs)

Chinese government regulates local big tech, allowing smaller companies to compete 

 

Alias laudantium odit praesentium sint neque. Ab quia ad earum voluptates. Animi harum delectus veritatis ut vitae veritatis hic. Non quae occaecati ab ea temporibus ratione nostrum.

Possimus dolorem aspernatur quos magnam non. Aut iusto corporis qui. Harum accusamus mollitia quia quos eos. Ipsum mollitia est at accusantium sint sit.

Natus incidunt quos nam et a mollitia aperiam. Veritatis consequatur reprehenderit sequi. Autem expedita dolorem distinctio rerum.

Earum ducimus voluptatem temporibus eligendi minima et. Dolores quasi dolorum qui voluptatem quibusdam qui. Sit omnis maxime quae dignissimos neque. Eligendi laborum voluptatum est quibusdam. Odio quia suscipit a iure sit exercitationem voluptatum.

 

Perspiciatis ex alias sed ab placeat vero. Cum culpa ad nobis tenetur explicabo soluta inventore. Molestias in sequi non officia.

Et id blanditiis qui delectus iste officia itaque doloremque. Reiciendis rerum et eius. Fugiat ut laborum alias cum rerum.

Dolorem modi doloremque dignissimos perferendis totam illo quibusdam. Consequatur et repudiandae aut est quaerat doloribus.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (86) $261
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (145) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
3
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
6
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
7
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
8
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
9
bolo up's picture
bolo up
98.8
10
Jamoldo's picture
Jamoldo
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”