2nd year analyst - never modelled

In a coverage group at a BB in London. I've basically never done any modelling other some really basic stuff. I'm kinda not sure what i've learnt over the last year and a half. I got mid bucket last year and pretty solid feedback from everyone. Is anyone else in a similar boat or is this just me? 

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First - learning modeling can be something you do intentionally. So that when you get the opportunity to model or have the desire to move into a product group you are ready.

There are several ways you can improve your financial modeling skills:

  1. Practice, practice, practice: Financial modeling is a skill that improves with practice. Find ways to practice financial modeling, such as by working through online exercises or building financial models from scratch for various industries or companies.

  2. Learn from experienced financial modelers: Consider finding a mentor or taking a financial modeling course to learn from experienced financial modelers. This can help you gain valuable insights and tips for building more accurate and efficient financial models.

  3. Stay up to date with financial modeling best practices: There are certain best practices that financial modelers should follow, such as using consistent formatting, clearly labeling assumptions, and thoroughly testing the model. Make sure you are familiar with these best practices and try to incorporate them into your financial modeling work.

It is not uncommon for analysts in coverage groups to have limited exposure to financial modeling. Coverage groups are typically focused on industry and company research, and may not involve as much financial modeling as other groups within an investment bank, such as the M&A or capital markets groups.

However, it is still possible to gain a range of skills and knowledge in investment banking even if you aren't getting a lot of experience in financial modeling. For example, you are learning more about the different industries and companies, developing analytical and research skills, and improving your communication and presentation skills. You may also have the chance to work on projects involving data analysis, market research, and business development.

 
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First - learning modeling can be something you do intentionally. So that when you get the opportunity to model or have the desire to move into a product group you are ready.

There are several ways you can improve your financial modeling skills:

  1. Practice, practice, practice: Financial modeling is a skill that improves with practice. Find ways to practice financial modeling, such as by working through online exercises or building financial models from scratch for various industries or companies.

  2. Learn from experienced financial modelers: Consider finding a mentor or taking a financial modeling course to learn from experienced financial modelers. This can help you gain valuable insights and tips for building more accurate and efficient financial models.

  3. Stay up to date with financial modeling best practices: There are certain best practices that financial modelers should follow, such as using consistent formatting, clearly labeling assumptions, and thoroughly testing the model. Make sure you are familiar with these best practices and try to incorporate them into your financial modeling work.

It is not uncommon for analysts in coverage groups to have limited exposure to financial modeling. Coverage groups are typically focused on industry and company research, and may not involve as much financial modeling as other groups within an investment bank, such as the M&A or capital markets groups.

However, it is still possible to gain a range of skills and knowledge in investment banking even if you aren't getting a lot of experience in financial modeling. For example, you are learning more about the different industries and companies, developing analytical and research skills, and improving your communication and presentation skills. You may also have the chance to work on projects involving data analysis, market research, and business development.

So you are telling me that capital markets groups gain better modeling skills than coverage groups? Why do I not see more ECM/DCM/LevFin bankers in PE if that is the case?

 

Bc PE is not only about modeling. ECM skillset is not super relevant to a sponsor, even if it does take-privates.

I have wondered this too bc lots of coverage groups aren't super technical. But you get the industry knowledge and learn how to think about these businesses (I know sounds vague, but is just the case.) Some coverage groups do the modeling too, though.

Also bit of a feedback loop with coverage roles being more sought after and considered "better" bc of their inroads w PE firms, even though the modeling experience can be lacking, as you're pointing out.

LevFin does place well as you get really strong modeling and debt experience and can pick up enough of the general industry knowledge and all that. Seems to be a case in a lot of groups of we've always hired from "x" BB's coverage group and the kids have been solid, so we'll continue to do so.

 
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Bc PE is not only about modeling. ECM skillset is not super relevant to a sponsor, even if it does take-privates.

I have wondered this too bc lots of coverage groups aren't super technical. But you get the industry knowledge and learn how to think about these businesses (I know sounds vague, but is just the case.) Some coverage groups do the modeling too, though.

Also bit of a feedback loop with coverage roles being more sought after and considered "better" bc of their inroads w PE firms, even though the modeling experience can be lacking, as you're pointing out.

LevFin does place well as you get really strong modeling and debt experience and can pick up enough of the general industry knowledge and all that. Seems to be a case in a lot of groups of we've always hired from "x" BB's coverage group and the kids have been solid, so we'll continue to do so.

In a lot of BBs the coverage bankers hold the model, and the LevFin team only supplies the product. Do you think also these bankers place well in PE?

 

Because DCM and ECM don't model. This is something that has (reassuringly) come up in my coffee chats. Some groups do model, though, securitized products for example.

 
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