Amherst and Chicago
Does anyone know how these two compare prestige-wise for employers? Thanks
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Weird.
My question was specifically attitudes towards them in the field of Ibanking. is there a problem with my asking it here?
He's just being an asshole for no reason. Dude really needs to gb2gbs
Also, I'm honestly not sure, but I'd guess Chicago places well for the Chicago offices and also might have a leg up because they have a good business school. On the other hand Amherst's a great school as well that I'm sure does alright.
Your best bet would probably be to contact both career centers and see how they both place.
hey man..i'm went to chicago...having gone through on-campus recruiting and worked parttime in the career office, chicago places as well as anywhere in terms of recruiting opps...there's no such thing as being regionally confined to chicago..that comment was actually kind of funny...
basically there's a huge ibanking wannabe culture and the banks like the rigorous analytical skills of chicago kids, altho they do have a reputation for not being the most socially adept...also, 1/3 of all chicago kids in any given year major in econ just b/ it's econ at uchicago, but not all of them are exactly looking to do econ grad school, if u get my drift...
that said, amherst is one of the best lib arts school period...while i'm sure their recruiting opps are good, specifically for banking chicago is a target for pretty much every ibank...the alum base for both undergrad and the gsb in finance is huge (i.e. gs' president jon winkelreid, former ceo jon corzine, blackstone chairman peter peterson, cs' brady dougan, MS former ceo philip purcell, carlyle co-founders david rubenstein & will conway, etc etc)...
so my humble opinion is, if u're all about being a banker, don't go to the pure lib arts school...actually chicago is not a bad compromise b/ while it's got good recruiting opps, it also has a strong lib arts core...think of it as like a cross between wharton & amherst...u can take all the random classes that interest u as well as econ and finance classes (from the gsb) for your planned career...
amherst places better
If you are sure about IB, I can't imagine passing up Chicago for Amherst.
just my opinion though
Do you know anything about the Amherst alumni network?
dude, no one is contending that amherst is a bad school...let's not be ridiculous, it's top notch...this isn't even a general argument about amherst vs chicago...it's about amherst vs chicago with respect to ibanking opps... so if u're seriously saying that amherst's alum network in banking rivals chicago's, then u need to do a little research...and this is pretty subjective, but a uchicago econ degree holds a decent amount of cachet when job hunting...
Thank you for your extensive response, kidxiao11
PoppingMyCollar,
umm, anything to back his? thanx
UChicago places MUCH better in the Chicago offices of BB, its not even close.
and WUSTL places well in St. Louis
wow, your attempt at humor was awful. you're an idiot.
heaven forbid people here consider anything outside of banking, but you should also consider the education in general.
chicago is probably the most academically serious / intense undergrad experience in the United States. (hard to get into / hard to get out of [unlike the Ivys] -- and that's either good or bad, depending on how seriously you take education. if you want to spend $45k/yr for drinking/partying without challenging yourself, go to Duke/Dartmouth [no offense alumni].)
amherst is also a solid education, but not a powerhouse research university. it's an environment where you get to know all your peers and professors more intimately, but aren't treated with the responsibility of a grad student.
if the bulge are picking Amherst grads over Chicago grads, then they are fucking retarded.
Plus, how many Amherst grads are in the front office - I bet you a tonne of them are in middle office compliance and bullshit like that whereas Chicago grads are probably doing the real deal.
You are an idiot.
Sorry I picked the school with 77 nobel laureates and schools that fosters modern economic thought over a school no one outside New England has even heard of. Shock and awe.
If you survive UofC with a good GPA you are smart enought to get a job at a BB or get into any graduate program.
yo...ny is clearly the center of finance in the US...but i'd much rather live in chicago..the ppl are friendly, cost of living is low, and there's more than enough things to keep u socially occupied...i suggest u don't talk shit about chicago just for the hell of it... not tryin to be confrontational...just backing my town...it aint a bad life doing banking in chitown...those dudes make the same and have a much better life...
This distinction belongs to CIT.
do chicago
I got friends at the UofC and I know for a fact that for this summer, CS and JPM took 15+ Front Office SA, while GS and MS took around 10 each.
This seems like a lot of U Chicago kids. Are they graduates or undergraduates? What is your source for these numbers?
Chicago is one of three universities in the world that established its own school of thought in economics. I have a hard time believing that Amherst can contend with Chicago, either in recruiting or in prestige, when it comes to anything business or finance-related.
ratul, aren't you working in england? it seems as if you are not exactly qualified to talk about US placement
chicago places better than amherst
Amherst is tiny...them placing 20 kids a year is like Penn placing 300. Also, one has to take into account the fact that it's likely that fewer students at an LAC will be so preprofessional. For example, I believe that Swat and Oberlin have two of the highest proportions of students that go on to grad school right after college.
So Amherst not placing as well as Chicago is more likely due to self-selection. If Chicago gets 100 a year into banking and Amherst gets 25, that doesn't necessarily mean that Amherst is worse.
this is exactly right
chicago's not that big either and the majority of kids there are not "pre-professional". the kids there are self-selective with many wanting to go the academic route - people here seem to think chicago is some huge university with a business undergrad program - its not. its a liberal arts school through and through...
also, if amherst places 20 and chicago places 100, chicago's alum network is already 5 times bigger..just food for thought
i think the larger your alumni network is, the less the alum feels a personal connection to the student.
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