I think all of them will give you great exit opps.I would personally pick BAML just because I know more people there, not because I think BAML > Barclays, Jafferies.
OP, whats the scenario? SA? Lateral? Somehow FT this late in the process even though they are doing SA as well LOL? Or is this a hypothetical thread w/questions about irrelevant rankings that show/mean nothing and no reasoning behind it...
A BETTER response rather than people getting upset above, would be which group at these mentioned banks? Each of the 3 banks have their forte and weaker groups, so it really depends noobie. if you have a specific group in mind, then re-post and ask that and im sure you will get more sophisticated responses than the simple: X>Y>Z.
I don't throw darts at a board. I bet on sure things. Read Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Every battle is won before it is ever fought- GG
Just curious how would you rank these tech groups in the west coast in terms of prestige? Barclays > Baml > Jefferies? Tho Jefferies does have a pretty strong tech M&A
I personally think BAML has become a lot weaker in past years and Jefferies the opposite. Jeff definitely has some MF placement, and BAML might but I think it would be very rare.
If they're generalist offers, I'd personally go BAML then Barclays then Jefferies. Close call between BAML and BarCap though. Barclays has some really random IBD groups you could end up placed in like Risk Solutions, whereas BAML has pretty standard Industry/Product groups. On the other hand, Barcap does have M&A done in-house within the industry groups, which is nice. Exits and culture vary across specific groups more than they vary across the two firms.
If you have connects in top groups, that would be the biggest factor. If you can get into one the top groups at either of these firms, it would be a safer bet than some of the weaker groups at the other firms. If you have offers from all three, try to use the leverage to get a group-specific commitment.
Just curious, why is Jefferies regarded so poorly in this thread? Or in general for that matter?
Lol its still a very very good shop. But ppl are obsessed with the "BB" status and therefore will generally recommend any BB (except UBS obvi) over Jefferies and then Jefferies over most other MMs. Take what you read here w/a grain of salt, and rankings like these are almost always pointless but i guess fun/entertaining to watch people bicker over. A job in IBD at any of these would be phenomenal and something to be ecstatic over, none are a "poor" job to have
I don't throw darts at a board. I bet on sure things. Read Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Every battle is won before it is ever fought- GG
Actually it is really dependant on groups more than anything.
Bingo. Agreed. Thts why earlier i said "A BETTER response rather than people getting upset above, would be which group at these mentioned banks? Each of the 3 banks have their forte and weaker groups, so it really depends noobie. if you have a specific group in mind, then re-post and ask that and im sure you will get more sophisticated responses than the simple: X>Y>Z"
These rankings are so pointless and just prestige obsessed
I don't throw darts at a board. I bet on sure things. Read Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Every battle is won before it is ever fought- GG
Without getting too into it, for reasons that should be obvious, I would not recommend starting my career at a firm with a new CEO, board and regulatory environment who are all hostile to investment banking. The culture at such a place may have suffered just a little bit in the past 6 months.
Without getting too into it, for reasons that should be obvious, I would not recommend starting my career at a firm with a new CEO, board and regulatory environment who are all hostile to investment banking. The culture at such a place may have suffered just a little bit in the past 6 months.
Without getting too into it, for reasons that should be obvious, I would not recommend starting my career at a firm with a new CEO, board and regulatory environment who are all hostile to investment banking. The culture at such a place may have suffered just a little bit in the past 6 months.
Interested in this as well. Also on JefferiesTMT (Boston)
1) BAMLTMT -- not best of the street but decent. Probably stronger in Tech than Barclays, but not up there with GSTMT or MS Tech.
2) Last time I checked, Barclays had separate groups for Tech and CMG. I'm guessing you are referring only to the Tech group in SF. As you might expect with Barclays, they are not top of the street but decent.
3) Jefferies at the bottom, both Foster City and Boston, for the litany of reasons already discussed in this thread. Furthermore, ECM activity has become very important for the tech sector in the past couple years, and JEF simply isn't a real competitor in this area.
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I would go Barclays, Jefferies, BAML that order, but I'm sure people will have very different opinions.
Barclays / BAML > Jefferies
well you are known to throw lots of hate on jefferies around here
To be honest, I think at the end of the day they are all the same. It only matters when you reach senior management level.
BAML > Barclays > Jefferies
He's right though, Barcap/BAML over Jeff anyday.
I'd consider the relative strength of the groups that you think you'd most likely end up in at each
I think all of them will give you great exit opps.I would personally pick BAML just because I know more people there, not because I think BAML > Barclays, Jafferies.
BAML>Barclays>Jeff
BUT,
I would take Jeff any day of the week.
WTF why is Jefferies even in this conversation?
OP, whats the scenario? SA? Lateral? Somehow FT this late in the process even though they are doing SA as well LOL? Or is this a hypothetical thread w/questions about irrelevant rankings that show/mean nothing and no reasoning behind it...
A BETTER response rather than people getting upset above, would be which group at these mentioned banks? Each of the 3 banks have their forte and weaker groups, so it really depends noobie. if you have a specific group in mind, then re-post and ask that and im sure you will get more sophisticated responses than the simple: X>Y>Z.
Just curious how would you rank these tech groups in the west coast in terms of prestige? Barclays > Baml > Jefferies? Tho Jefferies does have a pretty strong tech M&A
I personally think BAML has become a lot weaker in past years and Jefferies the opposite. Jeff definitely has some MF placement, and BAML might but I think it would be very rare.
If you were to get SA offers at each. All are general offers not group specific.
If they're generalist offers, I'd personally go BAML then Barclays then Jefferies. Close call between BAML and BarCap though. Barclays has some really random IBD groups you could end up placed in like Risk Solutions, whereas BAML has pretty standard Industry/Product groups. On the other hand, Barcap does have M&A done in-house within the industry groups, which is nice. Exits and culture vary across specific groups more than they vary across the two firms.
If you have connects in top groups, that would be the biggest factor. If you can get into one the top groups at either of these firms, it would be a safer bet than some of the weaker groups at the other firms. If you have offers from all three, try to use the leverage to get a group-specific commitment.
Just curious, why is Jefferies regarded so poorly in this thread? Or in general for that matter?
Lol its still a very very good shop. But ppl are obsessed with the "BB" status and therefore will generally recommend any BB (except UBS obvi) over Jefferies and then Jefferies over most other MMs. Take what you read here w/a grain of salt, and rankings like these are almost always pointless but i guess fun/entertaining to watch people bicker over. A job in IBD at any of these would be phenomenal and something to be ecstatic over, none are a "poor" job to have
Actually it is really dependant on groups more than anything.
Bingo. Agreed. Thts why earlier i said "A BETTER response rather than people getting upset above, would be which group at these mentioned banks? Each of the 3 banks have their forte and weaker groups, so it really depends noobie. if you have a specific group in mind, then re-post and ask that and im sure you will get more sophisticated responses than the simple: X>Y>Z"
These rankings are so pointless and just prestige obsessed
Not true. The BB's will give much better exit ops and access to HH's than Jefferies.
I went through PE recruiting and didn't see Jefferies kids at most of the interviews.
Without getting too into it, for reasons that should be obvious, I would not recommend starting my career at a firm with a new CEO, board and regulatory environment who are all hostile to investment banking. The culture at such a place may have suffered just a little bit in the past 6 months.
This is so irrelevant at the junior level.
QFE: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-06/barclays-to-cut-275-n-y-invest…
Any thoughts on how these banks compare in terms of tech coverage?
Barclays TMT (sf) vs. BAML TMT (palo alto) vs. Jefferies TMT (foster city)
Interested in this as well. Also on Jefferies TMT (Boston)
1) BAML TMT -- not best of the street but decent. Probably stronger in Tech than Barclays, but not up there with GS TMT or MS Tech.
2) Last time I checked, Barclays had separate groups for Tech and CMG. I'm guessing you are referring only to the Tech group in SF. As you might expect with Barclays, they are not top of the street but decent.
3) Jefferies at the bottom, both Foster City and Boston, for the litany of reasons already discussed in this thread. Furthermore, ECM activity has become very important for the tech sector in the past couple years, and JEF simply isn't a real competitor in this area.
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