BB Group Placement is a fucking joke
busted my ass to get into the firm and you're still going to hit me with the same gatekeeper bullshit I had to face to get in? If you're just going to take the alumni, why did I spent 15+ hours talking to analysts on the phone? Guess I dIdNt fiT tHe cUlTuRe good enough lmao
Which EBs recruit directly into groups for FT? lmk pls
ur gonna get MS from kids who don't get it but completely agree. at my BB placement was a mess and while I ended up in a top group by pure luck (someone reneged a week before FT and I happened to email someone in charge of recruitment at the right time) it left a really bad taste in my mouth. fuck all those people in groups that never replied, half of them being school alumni
I actually agree. Its lame af.
Brb i need to call all analysts and associates in group who are like 2 years older than me and jerk them off over the phone telling them how interested I am in the deals they work on on talk in circles about how I've heard "great things about culture" and have it be responded with platitudes like "we work hard and play hard here". Its very fake and very gay.
I don't care about your culture of comment churning and nonexistent free time, running a sell side process is pretty boring, im just here to check off the analyst stint box and move on to the buyside.
Edit:
I actually completely blew off the whole networking thing for group placement since it just felt really esmasculating and beta to jerk off all these junior bankers egos(as if banking work isn't enough cuck behavior in of itself). I already got my offer. No coffee chats, nothing.
Got placed into a mediocre group, killed it during internship, hr asked me what group I wanted to join full time after (I had my pick of any group basically).
the best is when they agree to take your call, but then just give you one word answers and you can hear them typing in the background. Or when you talk to someone in a group you're super passionate about and you can tell they don't give a fuck about the industry and just see the job as a means to an end. Nothing wrong with that, it just makes for a dry as fuck chat because you can't even talk to them about the industry.
Incredibly based decision to skip the whole thing. It's a waste of everyone's time. The placement was already locked in under the table weeks/months before, the official process is total theater.
Exactly. Like my current group is gathering all the placement feedback and its mind boggling.
"Hes too eager and hyped up about deals and modeling, im dinging him"
"Hes said he also is interested in lev fin, hes not fully committed to this group, im dinging him"
"We didn't have a deep connection on the phone" (wtf this isn't the bachelor
"I like her, group needs more women"(lmao)
Whole thing is super pathetic and makes me dislike my peers a bit that encourage it.
the people from the Ivy League schools were least likely to respond to my emails or be helpful on the phone.. made me kind of sad honestly, like even after getting the SA offer they’re still not ever going to be on your side, but I can understand where they’re coming from.
But c’est la vie, we’re all just blessed to wake up every morning and play the game.
ivy league grad here, my own alumni wouldn't respond so i wouldn't take it personally
If anything it’s still gratifying to see how many people come from prep schools and expensive elite institutions and know that I broke in and got the same offer out of undergrad after coming from poverty and public school and free lunch and food stamps. But I suppose it’s unrealistic to expect the elite school gatekeepers to save some opportunities for the rest of us after hoarding them their whole lives
Never a dull moment watching people with a false sense of entitlement complain.
Edit: Yes, bring on the MS. I bathe in the tears of crybaby Analysts who don't get their way.
FT Partners, it's paradise
What you all fail to realize is that when you are in the top group, 100 (no that is not an exaggeration, actually 100) emails will come in from people like you. I was not taking 100 calls. I was probably not even taking 20 calls. Instead, I found people that had some connection to the group's focus or to myself. That means it's probably 7-8 that went to the same school as me and 7-8 people that worked or did something highly relevant to our group worth talking about. And that's enough to do a call or two a day for weeks.
And I was very very generous with my time. Most people are doing 1-3 calls, not 15. And their filter is far more ruthless: do we know each other personally? No one is obligated to open up doors for you. But I am eternally grateful for the people that did for me, so I at least did my part.
Analysts are getting hundreds of emails a day.
no we're not lol, stop acting like you're too good to take 20 mins out of ur day to talk to a kid who actually wants to work in your group
I’m not analyst anymore nor have I been one for a while so this isn’t about me being too good.
No working professional is going to be able to acknowledge every request for an informational / networking request. Just because they didn’t respond to you doesn’t mean they aren’t responding to others
Dude I got filtered hard asf by the douchey ass Ivy kids (I hated the people so much but the group subject was my passion), but ended up in a really great group with genuine people I like. It was a blessing in disguise, this might read like a cope but I'm legit happy and telling you not to worry OP, remember:
You will never be happy going to a party you weren't invited to in the first place
There it is-the "spread your cheeks and take it" comment. Did a single person in this entire thread complain about where they ended up? Group placement is a ridiculous process regardless of whether you end up at the right group or not. Whatt is so terrible about complaining about a messed up system?