Lazerboy

Curious to hear your reasoning being an ESTJ myself

E: Believe extraverts have the upper-hand whether it be jockeying for a promotion, managing clients, building industry relationships, or teammate dynamics.

S: Banking is pretty straightforward with a clear end goal and detail-oriented. I think Intuitives may have the upper-hand in investing because it demands bigger-picture, critical thinking, weighing many possibilities, and dealing with the uncertain or abstract. With banking there's a clear task with a clear goal and you can implement the facts of the case to get to your objective outcome whereas investing demands much more complex thinking than just executing a transaction. I can't speak to Restructuring but this is how I see it with M&A.

T: Using a systematic, calculated, logical approach to problem solving in general. I also think it will help in dealing with coarser personalities within your team or in dealing with clients or buyers as you're more likely to roll with the punches and not let emotions override reason in a high-stakes moment. 

J: Organization and staying mentally focused on the task at hand. I'm much more on the P side and I really dislike rigidity and am constantly scattered with new ideas and thoughts, which I believe is very helpful in idea-generation or entrepreneurial endeavors but not as much for client advisory.

 

For seniors: autists who will abuse themselves to the end of the earth and do the shittiest tasks without complaints

For camaraderie: the semi-smart guys who are happy-go-lucky and high energy and will work on anything they are told to do and enjoy the structured path towards a decent net worth

 

I agree. I think I am INTJ, but as you said it’s hard to be 100% extroverted or introverted. Do you think people who lean towards introverted have a better time in IB because of the long solitary hours?

 
kellycriterion

XXTJ is going to be your answer. I consider myself an ambivert NTJ. I’m more of an introvert who comes off as an extrovert in social settings.

This is it.  And I'd place the J before the T.  You need to be hardcore J.  Banking, at core, is about running a process.  The process can be stressful, complex, and in some instances (vastly overstated in the industry's outbound marketing), even intellectually challenging.  But it's still a process.  

I'm ENTx - I veer ENTJ when I'm truly interested in something, but in the absence of an obsessive interest, I'm a happy camper being an ENTP.

I was NOT interested in banking, and I very much enjoyed the disposable income it gave me as a bachelor.  

Go figure.  

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kellycriterion

XXTJ is going to be your answer. I consider myself an ambivert NTJ. I’m more of an introvert who comes off as an extrovert in social settings.

This is it.  And I'd place the J before the T.  You need to be hardcore J.  Banking, at core, is about running a process.  The process can be stressful, complex, and in some instances (vastly overstated in the industry's outbound marketing), even intellectually challenging.  But it's still a process.  

I'm ENTx - I veer ENTJ when I'm truly interested in something, but in the absence of an obsessive interest, I'm a happy camper being an ENTP.

I was NOT interested in banking, and I very much enjoyed the disposable income it gave me as a bachelor.  

Go figure.  

ENTP as well. What do finance roles do you think most satisfy the N and the P? Find that I do not necessarily enjoy the process-oriented nature of sell-side M&A and the lack of critical thinking/abstract reasoning and cookie-cutter nature of the job.

 
kellycriterion

XXTJ is going to be your answer. I consider myself an ambivert NTJ. I’m more of an introvert who comes off as an extrovert in social settings.

I’m XXTJ - same thing with me - introvert who comes off as an extrovert.

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