Cornell (A&S) vs. Georgetown (SFS)... cannot decide.
Hi all, I was lucky enough to be admitted into Cornell A&S and Georgetown School of Health (thinking about transferring into SFS or CAS, not MSB because they don't offer good STEM 3-year OPT extension majors).
Would appreciate your two cents on deciding between the two schools. Here are my initial thoughts:
Cornell: ivy, proximity to nyc, huge alumni network across many industries, similar ib prospects to dyson students, really cool minors and resources, but rural and winters are depressing.
Georgetown: DC is urban and more appealing to me, learning IR and polisci in SFS is fulfilling, similar prestige in ib recruitment, less direct pipeline though, and if i want to go into other career fields, less opportunities than cornell.
Cornell Alum so take my opinion / facts knowing the bias but there’s really no difference in recruiting outcomes from the different colleges at Cornell. Also the ILR program is really easy to transfer into if you want to study more political science. ILR sends the most kids to T1 consulting and IB if they want it.
Obviously Georgetown is the better poli sci school and if you want to do that / be in an urban environment then Georgetown is the place to be.
Cornell has substantially better finance recruiting than Georgetown based of MY experience.
could you share about cornell quality of life and competition for ib seats?
You live in Ithaca for 4 years.
Georgetown places way better into IB than Cornell
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This is just wrong. Recruitment outcomes differ based on constituent college at Cornell. Dyson and Hotel have a tremendous advantage over the rest of the university.
hotelie retard saying this btw
Georgetown recruiting is fine if you join a finance club. One thing to look at with SFS is the BGA cross-program with the MSB. Cornell is a miserable school.
yeah, the bga cross-program is great, but it's not stem-eligible for 3 year opt extension.
Ok then just do ieco or gbus (if gbus is covered). You can also do the ibd certificate sophomore/junior year to get access to some of the MSB classes like accounting and corporate finance. There aren't that many SFS kids going into banking, but I think it's more of a self-selection thing. Just do IECO and a finance club and you'll be set. If anyone presses you about it in interviews (unlikely), say you're basically an econ major with just some more IR involved (which makes you more holistic)
Georgetown grad so take with grain of salt as the guy above, but I think Georgetown and Cornell recruits very similarly. Whatever Gtown loses by not being an Ivy is made up by strong pipelines and alum that will bat for you actively.
SFS prestige is great and you can recruit from anywhere, especially if you get in to a finance club.
DC is beautiful and great social scene
georgetown > cornell’s number of students gunning for ib seats and depressing ah winters
Personally, have higher regards for a Georgetown SFS grad vs. one from Cornell.
Probably a slight edge for Cornell recruiting wise, Georgetown serious edge for quality of life unless you want the rural campus-centric Cornell experience. Don't worry about major at Cornell, it's irrelevant for finance recruitment.
"Don't worry about major at Cornell, it's irrelevant for finance recruitment"
This is false. Cornell is probably only second to NYU in how much of a delta there is in recruitment prospects based on your major. The rule at Cornell is that for Dyson and Hotel, anyone who wants IB (or any other desirable finance role) gets it. If you're at Cornell but in another constituent college, it's a slog and most people who want it don't get it.
I've seen many very qualified people at Cornell (1550+ SAT scores, 3.8+ GPAs, club leadership) get zero traction in IB / MBB recruitment, simply because they weren't Dyson or Hotel.
Do you go to Cornell? If so, when? I graduated this year and was in multiple of the top finance clubs and saw four recruitment cycles. You’re just completely wrong and I don’t know a single person on campus except potentially you who would agree. I genuinely cannot tell if you’re serious or trolling. I was never even asked in an interview why I was in a certain school. I know kids in ILR who got multiple hedge fund offers and it was never even close to an issue.
Cornell has a stronger overall brand nationally and internationally, stronger placement within finance (they’re about the same for IB but Cornell has better buyside outcomes), and more flexibility if you ever want to do something in STEM instead. That being said, Georgetown is obviously still an amazing school and it probably doesn’t matter all that much which you end up choosing.
I think people over-exaggerate the whole “Cornell is miserable” claim. You rarely hear that from people who actually went there (I did). I honestly had an amazing time. Ithaca was absolutely beautiful in the fall and in the spring. Winters were brutal yes but Cornell also has like 30% to 40% of its student population in Greek life so you pass the winters getting fucked up with your buddies and go to Cancun/the DR for spring break. You also have an extremely diverse student population with tons of people from all over the world. I actually think it was an awesome college experience. Don’t forget, cities are always going to be there but you’ll never have the opportunity to have a traditional college experience later on.
do you regret anything about cornell? who do you think thrives at cornell?
People who thrive at Cornell tend to be fratty.
Cornell A&S. The recruiting output from
Georgetown vs Cornell isn’t much different. However, Cornell gives a way better college experience academically if you ever decide to explore other interests.
Georgetown and don’t look back
normalize explaining please. are you a cornell grad
Georgetown alum, so yes, biased, but even still. Not only will you have a fulfilling academic experience in the SFS, no matter what it is you study, you will also have great access to what interests you in finance and politics. Not only does literally every BB, EB, and megafund offer on-campus presentations, networking, recruiting, etc., but you will also have unparalleled access to events featuring heads of state, members of Congress, and innovators. Whether or not you are in a finance club, an alumni network, which is vast and very wide, will go to bat for you. Nearly all who try to recruit DO place, assuming the effort is put in. Social life is great, with a real balance here. Plus, DC is a nice place to live with easy access to NYC.
I was in this exact spot and chose Cornell A&S over Georgetown SFS.
Let me tell you one thing clearly: Cornell A&S does not have good placement. Your IB prospects will not be similar to Dyson students, regardless of what A&S major you choose. If you go with Cornell, your priority should be transferring to Dyson or Hotel.
I don’t think that’s true
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