Freshman interested in IB at UF

Hi guys and gals! It’s currently March of my freshman year at UF. I am a dance major at UF minoring in business admin and interested in investment banking. I’ve heard about the MSF program, GSIF, founders fund, and DISS capital. I have a 3.25 and 1350 SAT.

Work life balance is really important to me as a freshmen and I was wondering what I should do to prepare for investment banking. What do you guys know about the clubs? Which should I target? Who is Ms Hairing? Thank you!

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I’m gonna assume this isn’t a troll post lmao. Gpa bare minimum 3.5+, involve yourself in some sort of on campus club, start looking for an internship this summer. MSF in US isn’t really that strong (heard Target school MSFs don’t really place like targets would do). Also switching your major to be more quantitative may help. chill/non-quantitative majors at big targets are chill from what I know but from UF I’m not too sure. Probably not too strong IMO. Lastly putting investment banking and WLB in the same sentence often creates oxymorons

Good luck gng

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SAT score doesn't really matter for applications.  I have seen people their SAT Score/ACT score on it but only beacuse they got a 1600/36 on it and it was lowkey a flex. I would put that on there as well.
Your GPA is too low, but assuming it's just your first sem GPA, you should be able to get it to a 3.5 or 3.6 if you do really well this semester.
If WLB is paramount to you, IBD is probably the last place I'd ever look for a job. You're never really "off" in IB. I would highly recommend you take a week or two or a month and research what exactly you want to do, why you want to do it. 
I've seen plenty of sophomores recruit hard for IB and flame out when they get rejected a couple of hundred times. Prestige, exit opps, and even to some extent, pay, really aren't good reasons to say in an interview, and are even worse reasons to actually work in IB, at least for your analyst years. 
People will see through your bullshit. 
Edit: Did not see the dance major. Unfortuantely you'll probably have to switch the cookie cutter finance, econ, or business major. My guess is the top clubs at UF only recruit from finance majors. THat's not tosay that dance is a bad degree. I know two girls who majored in dance. One of the became a Rockette. That's honestly probably harder to get than BB IB. If you still want to do dance, I'd say a T20 or M7 MBA will be your road then. Respect to the dance majors of the world. I saw a Molly Long production on tiktok, incredible amount of work those people put in. 

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Went to UF, graduated a while ago so here is my thoughts:

#1: Your major needs to be changed, because you’re GPA is currently lower than a 3.5, you probably won’t be allowed to change to a finance major, so you’d have to do business admin or econ. If that’s your options do business admin, as econ is in CLAS from what I remember not Warrington.

#2. In order to get your GPA up, you should probably take some classes in the summer, as I’m pretty sure the average GPA of MSF applicants is like a 3.9 and avg sat is like high 1400s

#3 In terms of clubs, GSIF and Founders Fund are extremely selective. I don’t really know about DISS, as that didn’t exist while I was there. Won’t lie, you probably won’t get into either GSIF or FF, but can’t hurt applying.

#4 Miss Herring is the director of the MSF program, and will conduct an interview for the program. She makes it hard on purpose.

Final thoughts from all this: You have a tough road ahead of you, but it can be done. Focus on things you can control for now like your GPA and your Major. Try to land something this summer in finance, literally anything it can go a long way.

 

Current student here. We have done really well this year with the Class of 2028, 4 EVR placements, some other EBs in there and all. Basically, if your goal is getting IB then MSF is the best path, if MSF is the path, then getting GSIF or Founders analyst (not consulting analyst) next semester is the best path. But before all of that, getting your GPA up is important. Since you just went through your first semester, you can easily influence it by getting a 4.0 this semester and in summer. I'm sure you can break 3.7 or higher by Fall - that would be my first step.

Second step you have to get into GSIF or Founders, DISS is looked down on for some reason by her probably because of lack of good placements and just it being newer - would say Caimanes is pretty underrated as well, but they are pulling their weight compared to DISS. All in all, DISS is a backup plan. GSIF comes first as well as getting Founders as an analyst not a consulting analyst, for some reason Herring things getting consulting analyst in Soph Fall is less impressive, but that's just the way it is. Then target Caimanes, even though MSF is unlikely with it, they are really really smart and that can transfer to recruiting. All of those however will require a pitch as part of the application of an stock. So you have plenty of time to coffee chat current GSIF, Founders, Caimanes members on how to make a good pitch since that is the key to the applications.

Third is assuming that you were lucky and got one of the funds above, then comes MSF if you have GSIF or Founders as an analyst, it becomes significantly easier since you gain the respect of Herring right off the bat. The next thing is you have to articulate your story well, idk how you're gonna turn dancing major into interested in IB, but you can again coffee chat current MSF students to help you with that.

While you are doing the MSF applications, you should be doing typical prep for investment banking, but how to do that - there are tons of resources you can find out how to become good. Again coffee chat current students who have placed in IB already. Before that, you should really consider IB as a career, if you value WLB, IB is most definitely not for you. So really do some digging, if IB is what you want to do then go for it but it is a grind only the dedicated can survive. Other careers like CorpFin aren't bad for WLB, maybe less pay off rip, but 80k a year in Texas for example isn't exactly so bad if you can go to New York one weekend without worrying about updating a model or getting calls at 2am. Maybe if IB is still in your mind, then going to MBA school down your career you could pivot, of course that's another story.

I'm an alum from UF, so happy to talk more and I can PM you if you want.

 

My little cousin goes to UF, I graduated there some years ago as you can see my reply so I asked him about this stuff because I was curious. According to him DISS is looked down upon, because #1 they take 30 some kids every cycle which is a LOT for an investment fund, and #2 is that apparently you can get in DISS without really knowing anything about finance, because your first semester is just you learning. Did some of my own research on Caimanes as that didn’t exist either, looks legit, people are getting into actual hedge funds there.

 

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