How Bad Is This? Printed Book In Person Meeting Full of #VALUE Errors
First, I already assume this is like egregiously bad. Like not even just bad but borderline I should hand in my 2 weeks unprompted, bad.
Analyst 1 in BB NYC. Last night I was juggling 5 different projects at 1 A.M. One is for a pitch for a sponsor at 9 am the next day. It is one of those books where we just slap on a bunch of profiles for them to look at. Game plan was to wrap up the book, schedule the courier, and send to my boss' house in Long Island that night.
As I mentioned earlier, I was working on 4-5+ different projects at once. I finished the book late and had it printed. I admittedly did not do a page flip as it was 1 AM, I was getting chased by 3 other associates ETA'ing me, etc. It was a pitch and the book was 80 pages so fuck it didn't take a second to page flip.
Later that night at 4 A.M I am randomly looking at the PDF I sent the print shop (as I am closing out all my stuff) and notice in the sponsor pitch deck there are 3 pages full of data that are literally just all #VALUE. Like the entire page is covered in these errors when it should be obviously data. I guess I did not f9 enough.
The meeting happened, no feed back, no nothing. Nothing from MD. Nothing from associate. Nothing from anyone. Is it safe to say this went unnoticed? (it was on pages like 56,58,59 out of 80). Just wondering how bad this would be if I was actually called out LOL
I feel like it's one of those "no harm no foul" situations; idk how you guys save files but I would consider fixing the version you have on file?
With regards to your question it's obviously bad but not career ending given it's a pitch.
Hey man - great work on this deck, real value add!
Thanks fellow analyst 1 - weirdo....
If it was printouts for a pitch then I am sure the discussion didn’t go past slide 3, and no one is reading past slide 5
If you sent the pdf, then there is a higher chance of someone checking it. Depending on the strength of relationship with the sponsor, I don’t think they will care much. The fund guy is not hiring you because you are capable of refreshing a boilerplate template
If the MD sees it then for sure he will be pissed off. In that scenario my advice is to be accountable. Last thing he will want to hear is “I was working on 4 other deals”
No one looks at your numbers externally but not a good look. Not the end of the world
Don't lose any more sleep than you're already losing. I've been to these meetings before, and if your MD knows these guys, chances are they're mostly talking about portco performance. 80 pages tells me it's likely your guy doesn't have a good relationship though, that's too many profiles to credibly say you know all of them.
I think the only client I've ever seen take these books seriously was a Swedish client who asked us for the extra copies so they could distribute to their team to study the different companies in the space. It was also one of the 50+ pagers of profiles.
Bad enough to get you shipped off to the Anchorage office... in all seriousness if your team isn't total dogshit, your team will own the responsibility, from you and the associates up for not catching it. Yes, you will all probably get bitched by your MD but not meaningful to alter the outcome of a real deal given it's a pitch
Sounds like you got off scot-free
Tighten up homie… do that for the wrong assoc and they will not be happy
It’s your job to check it
jeez dude what bank do you work at sounds like such a sweat shop lmfao
Back in the day, I saw people transitioned out for less. This is a major mistake that you need to learn from immediately.
I'd imagine someone on the deal team noticed (VP / Associate), but didn't raise it, so it didn't look bad on their part.
Treat this as a reality check / wake up call. Anything external needs to be properly checked and scrubbed.
Practice better communication with the other associates and if needed, tell your Associate to intervene with the other deal teams and have your back.
I would never blow up a tired analyst over this. No one died, not even a deal. I’d probably tell the kid to get some rest.
If it was a regular occurrence I would have an issue but never on a one off.
Holy shit a reasonable MD
A reasonable MD? What blasphemy. You have to fix yourself asap.
I only respond to “pls fix”. Thx.
5 projects at once.....
I am so cooked once I start. Why do firms fucking protect interns. I thought shit was all rainbows and sunshine. I struggled to manage 2-3 at the same time.
You get to be more efficient as you get through your analyst years. What used to take me 2 hours in my first year only took me 30 minutes in my second year.
dude that is insane. how does that happen? i dont really care how it happens but that is a wild mistake.
probably someone saw, not the MD, and didnt flag it because duh.
you gotta not do that again. ESPECIALLY for a pitch.
Zoom out though – the pitch and value errors are not what really matters here. What really matters here is I am clearly seeing clear evidence of someone who simply won't survive in this industry unless you find a way to care less about what doesn't matter and more about what matters, and trust that others will see it the same way. That's how you churn materials without dying at 1am and imploding, which is how i characterize what you have done here.
If that book was for me, I would tear into your associate. There has to be a quality check between an analyst 1 and a senior banker / client.
Likely the meeting didn't go past the first 5-10 slides and nobody is going that deep into it.
For you, learning experience. Always page flip and communicate bandwidth with your staffer. 4-5+ projects at once is neither sustainable, nor productive.
The thing I always found funny about pitch books is, as someone who has spent almost my entire career on the receiving ends of those pitches, we never need more than 3 pages to know if a pitch is worth seriously doing work.
For example:
You can add in some pages for comps, but fundamentally, it doesn't take much to get a client interested in the deal if you their buy box.
Which is what makes it so funny that bankers come with these phat books. To me, it shows an insecurity about their ideas. If you actually did the work to understand the client, pitching the ideas are not that hard (in the sense that it really shouldn't take that much time and effort to put the material together and it should be very streamlined compared to what bankers actually give me).
Obviously I agree — but if you were to take it to committee, your MD would ask for 55 appendix pages that don’t matter at all, too.
It’s the difference between what the idea is and how to sell it in a CYA way to the decision maker.
Yeah... well there is only so much I can do about insecurities and incompetence.
Honestly, if nobody mentioned it after the meeting, there’s a decent chance it either went unnoticed or just wasn’t important enough to derail the discussion. Senior bankers usually care more about the overall narrative and key takeaways in sponsor pitches, especially in massive 80-page decks where profile pages tend to get skimmed quickly.
That said, yes, having multiple pages full of #VALUE errors is objectively a bad miss, but it’s also the kind of mistake that happens when analysts are juggling several live workstreams at 1–4 AM with no real bandwidth left. The bigger issue would be repeating the same mistake consistently, not a one-off error during a brutal workload stretch.
The fact that your MD and associates stayed silent is actually a positive sign. In most IB teams, if it had caused embarrassment in the meeting, you would’ve heard about it almost immediately. Take it as a lesson to always do a final page flip or export check before printing, even when exhausted. Most analysts have a horror story like this at some point.
You the man thank you
It falls on your associate tbh
Happens way more than you would think…I probably have a few books on my desk with that issue…but at end of the day no one views these meetings as let’s flip pages…it’s a chance to chat and connect in person, that’s it (at least if the banker and client are actually good in my view)
This falls more on the associate than you. Senior management will get on them more than they get on you. That said, your associate may get on you for this since he is taking the heat and although it's their job to check the analyst's work, a thorough analyst should catch something like this. You should be fine this time around, but don't let these kinds of mistakes become a habit otherwise it will become your problem.
Honestly every analyst has done such mistake. Not a big deal. If you want my take: it’s your associate/vp fault for not spotting the error.
Please next time print the deck and review it thoroughly!
Wouldn't worry much. Highly doubt they covered those pages. If it has been days since the incident then probably no one noticed. These guys meet with dozens of other banks regularly, they dont read everything.
However, keep in mind always that there is always a chance above 0% that the client will catch the mistake.
As a client, super low chance they’d make it to that page and the fact no one has screamed at you yet means they didn’t. The odds anybody client side post meeting flicks through and sees it is low, and the chance they’ll flag it is even lower. So you’re in the clear
I think that to proactively flag to the bankers that in a BS 80 pages marketing deck there’s an error you need to be a real psycho
The real problem is 80 page sponsor books, nobody has time for reading all tha for 30 minute sponsor meetings. I am sure your associate or VP might be angry if they catch-it but the chances of an MD looking at a 80 page sponsor deck after the meeting seems heavily unlikely. Either way; although it's your responsibility to do the work the onus is mostly on the associate as quality controling between analyst's and seniors is their main job.
Nothing ever matters
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