How do you manage dating / meeting women in IB?

What are your tricks to be successful at dating? The main issues I'm facing are that I barely have any time to meet anyone and that I'm a pretty uninteresting person to be with.

All of my knowledge and interests are work-related due to the amount I spend on it. This was my first job after graduation and I feel like I did not have the opportunity to develop my own interests and hobbies in order to make me a more interesting person.

When chatting with women I have really nothing to say besides my work (which to them is quite boring). I am introverted and have no game. I'm also more of a listener-type of guy and therefore can keep conversations alive if she is the one bringing any topics up, but otherwise I feel like I am pretty dull and boring.

Does any of you have this problem? Any tips on how to be successful?

 
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Find yourself first before you start trying to date. Seriously man you need to figure out what you would like to do if you didn’t have work to to occupy you for 18 hours a day. Would you read books? Go out and hike? Play pick up ball? Watch movies / listen to music? Learn to how to build shit? Do you think politics are interesting? What about the history of war and international conflict? What TV shows do you like? It’s hard with IB but most banks have at least protected Saturdays - you should invest in finding out more about yourself on those days. You are boring because you don’t know yourself. Nobody wants to date a mindless cog. If you want to just find someone to bang that’s different, but you have no business dating at this point.

 
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How do you manage dating / meeting women in IB?

I don't.

 

I have been dating a lot and have been quite successful at it even though I am somewhat similar to you. My only interests are gaming and working out. I'm also someone who doesn't like to sit and talk shit for hours as I don't feel that I get anything out of it. Below are a few things that have worked for me. Keep in mind that I only do one-night stands so might not work as well if you want long-term relationships.

Focus on her rather than yourself. It's much easier to ask questions than to answer them and most people like to talk about themselves anyways. It's also quite easy to find things to speak about on the first date. Just ask her about her interests, her family, her job, her upbringing, her opinion on things etc. And then you just chime in with your own experiences. 

I also tend to give women a few compliments, but NEVER on their looks. Women get 20 messages from guys about how hot they are every time they post a picture. As such, compliments on looks will not come across as original in any way. Might just be me as well, but feels beta as fuck going around telling a woman how hot she is. Instead, compliment on things such as being ambitious for working double jobs in college or that she is a very good daughter who took care of her mother when she was sick etc. 

Lastly, never let women know where you stand. As soon as you pronounce that you're into her or that you want to sleep with her, you become less interesting. Instead, be flirty with her but never make it clear what you actually want. She should have an idea of what you want but never be certain.

These things have worked really well for me. Went on 2-3 dates a week for a few months and only failed to get laid twice. Once I actually failed and the other time I ended up fingering some girl on her period (disgusting). 

 

Never letting women know what you think is a bad take. Us men are easily replaceable, especially in NYC. Not saying you should tell someone I love you after one date but within reason make it clear how you feel about your date.

i also disagree about the complements part. If you truly believe in your complement, it will come out. However, I do agree if and when you can try to complement on stuff outside of looks ( but it doesn’t mean you can’t and that it looks bad if you do) Ex: you look so elegant in that dress, etc 

This stuff should feel natural. If you’re playing mind games, it’s not going to work out for you in the long run and it may not be a good idea to continue seeing this person. 

 

I am sure you are right when it comes to seeing someone in the longer term. Obviously, it would not work to regularly date someone and them having no idea about how you feel about them. I've never met a girl more than 2-3 times and most of them only 1 time so my experience is only based on that. 

 

Once I actually failed and the other time I ended up fingering some girl on her period (disgusting). 

Just threw up in my mouth.

Sound advice otherwise, but honestly don't know how you can have one night stands for months straight without feeling disgusted by yourself. I'm not judging, just wondering, because I sure as hell can't do that.

The complimenting thing is very true. Never compliment what she's born with (face, eyes, lips whatever the fuck), only what's a result of her decisions (how she wears her hair, clothes, earrings whatever).

Personally I don't ask them too many questions, I feel like it always comes across too much like an interview. Better to tell stories that involve her giving her thoughts(for example, ask her what she thinks is going to happen next just before your story reaches a turning point or climax) But story telling is a skill that needs practice.

 

I don't feel disgusted but sometimes I get this "what the fuck am I doing?" feeling directly after I cum. Especially if it's a girl who doesn't look great. Dating also comes in waves for me. I usually date a lot for a few months. Then I get tired of it because I realize that it's useless and doesn't really add any value to my life. I begin focusing on something else and then after a while, I start missing dating. The loop then begins again.

 

I’m pretty uninteresting as well (I watch sports drink and lift), but it’s all about the way you pitch it/feel about it. Eg. “I work 18 hours a day on a job that idgaf about drown my sorrows in ciroc and lift cuz it’s the only way to get out my aggression” makes you sound like a twerp whereas “I immerse myself in my career to build the life I want to live, I know how to play hard and have a good time with my friends, and I always am improving my mind as well as my body by working out” makes you sound like a man who knows what he wants. Girls rlly don’t give a fuck what you’re interested in, they give a fuck if you have direction in life and are confident with that direction (ie you’re the captain of the ship solo and with her). Being bold and confident salesman will get you 90% of chicks. Hell, I saw a cute girl behind me at a stoplight yesterday and put “what’s ur #” in big letters on my phone using Snapchat and held it out the window. Girl laughed and gave me her Instagram. Be every sleazy guy you have ever resented, that’s what worked for me. Hope you get lucky soon big man!!

 

Thanks for the compliment. Jokes aside I feel like lifting and a good shred gets u up to a 7 and then a douchey haircut (travolta mullet in my case) gets u the rest of the way there purely due to the confidence you gain from it. The male standard of looks isn’t as specific as the female one so a lot of it is actually about effort not genetics.

 

"I immerse myself in my career to build the life I want to live, I know how to play hard and have a good time with my friends, and I always am improving my mind as well as my body by working out" 

Guaranteed to have every girl dry up instantly

 

Agreed. Sounds like someone who takes himself WAY too serious. Women do not appreciate that. 

 

I didn’t mean saying that I just meant acting like it. Actions speak louder than words no chick gives a shit what u say they care how u act

 

First of all you need to get your life together. It seems that you personally feel a lack of extracurricular accomplishment so would focus on that. Don’t blame your job, just make some time on the weekends to find some new activity and meet new friends. Travel a bit. If you need to push back in staffings then so be it. Independently of who you’re talking to (girls, mates), people don’t want to talk about work all the time. You need to discuss hobbies and your life. If you really have NOTHING to say, practice the “chain of association” by yourself. Look it up, will make you better at improvising about random subjects. 
 

Second of all, there is literally nothing more repulsive to a woman than an insecure yes-man. You DO need to work on your game, otherwise you’re never gonna have success with a quality girl. You need to be edge. Stop this listener type personality right now. Be more edgy, express your opinions, contradict people (without offending them of course). 
 

The fundamentals of game are 1) eye contact and smile 2) lean back, relax, be non needy  3) make sure your clothing is on point and you’re properly shaved etc 4) go to the gym 5) push/pull (compliment then take it back) 6) actually go for the win rather than playing to avoid the lose. 
 

In terms of logistics, if you go out you should naturally meet people, in hobbies too, but otherwise just hinge and tinder my man. 

 

Look around. Smell the roses. Realize that you’re basically the Wolf of Wall Street and not the Boy Who Cried Wolf. Sack up. Make her CIM. And add some rational assumptions about how long you’ll last into the DCF and don’t forget to re-lever your beta. You got this dawg.

It’s the name of the game. You’re not in Chattanooga anymore it’s time to adapt.

 

Honestly bro, just hit the gym and clean up your diet, fix your style, hygiene and haircut (ironed clothes that fit well, groomed hair and beard, clear skin etc.), and smile confidently. Within 6 months girls will be asking you out, especially you're in IB and make decent money. Once you fix some of these areas, I'd hire a photographer and take 3-4 really good photos for dating apps if time is an issue. Hobbies are not as important to girls as they make out to be, they should be important to you. Not having one is a sign of a deeper issue than whether or not you can talk to a girl. Pick anything you genuinely enjoy and go with it. Guys are out here dating 9s playing Minecraft and building Legos with them, not everyone needs to be playing guitar 

 

Almost all the women I date are in IB…usually at my own firm. Dangerous game but haven't met HR yet. Don't think there's a better dating pool. They understand the lifestyle, very cultured and incredibly smart. I'm boring and introverted, but I actually make the effort. It's the small things. Setting up a quick dinner in the middle of her 90hr week/grabbing coffee, she'll appreciate it. Talking about work is normal but good to explore their mind/interest.

 

The IB lifestyle is brutal and it’s soul crushing without having solid connections in your life.  Over the past couple of years, I have learned  that everyone 100% replaceable at work and there is way more to life than banking.  Don’t get me wrong,  I want to excel at work, but it’s not enough for me. I also want to build a life outside of work and having a partner is an essential part of that.  For me, dating a girl in IB has been amazing. I was initially skeptical but I would 100% recommend.  My girlfriend is smart, fun, kind and understanding. Some weeks we don’t have a lot of time, but we typically spend a lot of nights/mornings together.  Other weeks are better and we get more time to actually get out and do things like dinner, hiking, going to the gym, visiting family, spending time with friends etc.  Being able to truly relax with someone and just have fun together and caring about someone and knowing that they care about you in return, these are the things that just make life so much better.  Work is way better when you are happy.  

 

Please don't take advice from the guy who only does one night stands. That means he can't maintain. The females may not want a second round, my friend. There is zero underlying friendship. Don't listen to him. 

 

Since I graduated I'd estimate I've slept with close to triple digits number of women over 4 years of IB. Wouldn't say it is because I'm super naturally attractive myself or whatever because I didn't get laid nearly as much at school and don't do fantastically in nightclubs where you can't speak to people. What I'd say helped the most was working on being confident and funny, most of the women even said that I pretty much laughed them into bed.

 

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