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looks like a total party animal......
Nice.
A kid in my HS makes this kid look like a joke.
He won't go on WSO. The guy's name is Noam and he lives in Manhattan. You do the math, he's got family in the industry already.
Damn check out that domepiece
It says his father is David Sharpiro who works in financial services; could well be this David Sharpiro, Managing Partner at KPS? Probably won't have too many problems finding a job if so!
http://www.kpsfund.com/davidshapiro.asp
Wait until this guy discovers girls!!
Regards
"I love both the humanities and the sciences!" exclaimed Shapiro, who has trouble saying whether chemistry or literature is closer to his heart.
Yeah right. By the time he reaches his senior year it will be "I love both the Goldman Sachs!"
So true.
http://www.kpsfund.com/davidsamad.asp financial advisor eh? :O
props to this kid.
I wish I had some guidance in HS about colleges and career paths (non-target, both of my parents were immigrants with no college education so they had no clue either)
Fuckin public school guidance counselors are not worth a damn.
I share similar sentiment, but still have no regrets.
'Other options include ...SUNY Binghamton' Really, do they?
Hilarious.
Call to all WSO Readers: Go to the link and vote for SUNY Binghamton on the online poll of that site, lol.
I go to Bing and I almost cried when I read this ... why would anyone go to bing if you didn't have to.
But Bing has 32% of the votes at this point ; )
^ word. Good guidance in HS is critical. I only applied to undergrad finance programs because I wanted to "work on Wall Street." Did not even apply to the Ivies because they do not have undergraduate business programs. Parents and college guidance counselor did not know any better...
You are aware that Penn has an undergraduate business program right? Now, it's name escapes me at the moment...something that starts with a W I think...
Yeah, I meant besides that one. Still I applied early to a different finance program cause my counselor said Wharton was a reach...I shoulda reached.
I've actually met this kid, because I live on the island and I do speech and debate. I've actually debated at Bronx Science before, the high school this kid goes to.
He's a frail, socially awkward kid. I can't imagine him succeeding in any business career path. He can barely talk to girls, let alone get in front of a public audience and give a presentation.
You do know what a quant is, right?
I know what a quantitative analyst is. My point was you have to be able to network and talk to people. He can't.
@capitalism: c'mon, he's a high school kid. we were all awkward in high school, especially the ivy league-wall street demographic on WSO. cut him some slack - you should probably delete your post too since anyone can search his name and see your post and immediately judge him before meeting him. it would suck if someone mentioned your name on a public forum and someone wrote something negative based on meeting you once at a time in your life where you were awkward or whatever
and i know plenty of kids who were awkward freshman year of college who grew into themselves and became really socially active, leadership types. he's a smart kid that happened to get into a ton of colleges, he doesn't deserve posts like that about him online
Ha.
Don't be so obviously jealous bro
Frankly speaking, I don't think this guy gives two shits about WSO. The majority of people on this website are HS seniors / college freshmen or juniors from random non-target schools.
Good for that guy though, he got into some good schools.
Damn way to call it like it is.
No you don't dude. If you have a 3.9 from almost any of the schools he is considering in a hard maths type thing, you can be a quant. Have you ever met a quant? I would rather drink with Rachel Maddow than some of those dorks. (No offense IP.)
No comment. :D
Seems like an incredibly gifted kid... hopefully he doesn't waste his talents on finance
what a bro-king, this guy's about to beast mode college
SUNY Bringhamton beating Harvard and Penn combined!!! But yes I hope he goes into literature, I hear English majors make bank!
Yup. We do...
Hopefully this kid does something value added other than finance when he graduates - I wish him a lot of good luck - suspect though that he will be a miserable law associate in 7 years :)
only on WSO do grown men and high schoolers idolize the college-entry 'opps' and demonize the potential social life 'opps' of 17-year old jewish/asian kids.
LOL @ people thinking that the UWS is some kind of oasis. Seriously, there is some run-down-as-fuck apartments in the UWS and all throughout manhattan in general. I have family of friends paying like $2000 in rent for a 3 bedroom half decent apartment because they've lived there since the 70s and 80s. Just because he lives in manhattan doesn't mean his parents make bank... kid is just book smart... 10 APs.. jesus.
10 APs really is not that impressive, I went to a public school in the suburbs and did 6 with little problem and I am by no means a genius. Other people did much more than me.
And I still think the person to beat in Jan Sramek, haven't seen anyone come close to him yet.
The fact that he intervened on this forum to defend himself puts him way ahead of this kid for now. Much better intervention than Timmy Sykes might I add.
For the love of God, choose chemistry over literature. If brainiacs like this end up reading poetry and studying dead languages, we'll never cure cancer.
If I were any of you guys, I'd shut up real quickly. Dude's a double black belt.
smart dorky jewish kid gets into a bunch of ivy league schools?!? amazing!! these headlines never cease to blow my mind. just the other day i was reading about this studious asian girl with a REALLY high SAT score....
ps. i 3 u jews and asians, no offense :-)
haha...this kid is not going into finance. It would bore him to tears. If he cares about money he's going to an elite law school and going to work at some top tier law firm, or he's getting a PHD and going to be an academic....or both. You don't have to be a genius to work in investment banking. I'm sick of hearing this nonsense.
Honestly didn't read shit on the sight the sun was shining off that dome and I couldn't see the screen had to hit ctrl+left to escape its blinding rays.
*site
wow that's embarassing
whats with all the binghampton hate? My friend goes there and I heard its a pretty respectable state school
Kids like this are a dime a dozen among the rich in manhattan. Born into that kind of environment, it really doesn't impress me one bit.
This kid needs a two on the sides, a taper in back and scissors on top. He looks like RJ Berger minus the D piece. He obviously worked hard for his success though. I wish I was that focused at that age.
10 APs? I took 12 APs in high school along with 2-3 college credit courses...psh
HI. FRIENDLY BOFH HERE. CURRENTLY HACKING INTO ADMISSIONS DATABASES. LET'S SEE- NORTHWESTERN [CLICKETY CLICK] REJECTED. YALE [CLICKETY-CLICK] REJECTION. .... SUNY [CLICKETY CLICK] DENIED.
EHH, LET'S GIVE THE KID HALF A CHANCE AND SAVE HIS ADMIT AT BROWN FOR ART HISTORY. HEY- YA NEVER KNOW, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.
SORRY KID- LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS JUST A BUNCH OF COMPUTER GLITCHES DUE TO, AH... SOLAR FLARES! ENJOY ART HISTORY AT BROWN. GOOD LUCK- YOU'LL NEED IT.
//End BOFH Trolling.
Good for this kid, now we need to lock the thread before it turns into a pissing match.
What a loser I took 12 APs and I was valedictorian.
Also, anyone who doesn't answer 48÷2(9+3) = 2 can get above a 2200 on the SAT.
I'll keep my friends, girls, and my life. He can hold onto those AP classes.
Sigh, what I find worst about this, is that this amazingly modest whatever individual managed to contact the press to get his story out. loads of kids get good results/are capable of getting good results but dont think the world should know about their stories. I was a good maths kid, could have done all the maths a levels/exams without any extra effort but did 2, because im not a gimp. I did those subjects for me because they interested me, not other people. Anyone that does extra exams is freaking insecure.
Or a beast?
Too many haters on WSO
Are you really going to argue that a top tier law firm is that much more stimulating than investment banking? Litigation work perhaps, but this kid hardly seems the type.
There is an extremely diverse landscape in law, international/domestic, intellectual property, academia, etc. Having your own firm is not nearly as hard as starting a hedgefund etc. and I'm sure whatever he chooses he'll be happy with so who really cares. Arguing over what someone else should do with their life sounds retarded to me...like the football dad vicariously living and thinking of what could have been.
Mega law firms, I can tell you right now that the work for a 1st year to 4th possibly 5th is far more boring than the work one does as an analyst in IBD. If you think that pouring over prior case rulings 15 hours a day 6 to 7 days a week is stimulating you might need to see a shrink. Sure being a trail lawyer, in corporate litigation, and possibly trial rep (even though this kid has no chance of that unless he drasticly changes by the time he graduates) might be more stimulating. Out side of trial rep none of the stimulating things are done by associate lawyers.
I'm not saying the contrary. Just that saying that finance would bore this kid to tears as opposed to law or academia is ridiculous.
ah jeez...i didn't use a paragraph to separate my ideas, the second half was directed toward those arguing over what he should do etc.
jesus, i was too busy chasing tail and partying back then.
respect....i think
Wow, those wharton numbers are very unimpressive for 15 years out. I'll make way more than that in 10 years. Let alone 15. And i'm not even in IB/PE/HF etc.
Up or out.
75% are out. Assuming you will make partner or MD or whatever is not reasonable.
Fair point. But keep in mind that they are presenting averages. Not medians. So it's even less impressive once you consider how badly the averages are skewed by the few people who make deep into the 7 and 8 figures 15 years out of a wharton MBA. I bet the median income after the 15 years is closer to 300K all in, which to me seems unimpressive.
Those figures are not in the Canadian dollar....sorry
Haven't been following the FX markets have you...
lol @ the results of the "Where should Noam Shapiro go to college?" poll in that article
lol: http://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/poll.do?pollCmsUniqueId=20110410_colleg…
lol: http://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/poll.do?pollCmsUniqueId=20110410_colleg…
You work just as much at a law firm and make less money relative to Wall Street
Keep dreaming, finance MBAs don't average 600k - it is actually a lot, a lot of money that very few people make (most peoplwhenever make it to pm/partner/md/whatever) my guess is that post MBA numbers don't look that different from Wharton undergrad numbers
Sort of hard to believe when Wharton UGs who get an MBA are making over 600k on average across ALL industries.
Harvard's alumni report also shows alums in finance were earning 3x as much as alums who were not in finance.
Also remember than average != median.
Also I agree with numm, this kid shouldn't be news.
Dude, it's after 15 years! One megafund MD who's making 10MM a year offsets 25 people who are only making 200K 15 years out. No matter what industry you're in, after 15 years of finishing a wharton MBA, it is very reasonable to expect to make at least 200K.
I mean come on. Even if 30 percent of wharton MBAs go into finance, and only a sixth of them make it to MD, that's still 5% of the graduating class who will make deep into the 7 figures 15 years out. 600K as an average, 15 years out of a WHARTON MBA is quite underwhelming if you ask me.
EDIT: Just realized we're on the same side of the debate. My bad.
Why is this even newsworthy?
Haha, SUNY Binghamton leading the poll.
"Hi guys,
I'm a senior at a target high school in the greater NY area, don't wanna give away too much information about myself but I've done really well in the admissions process. Right now I hafta pick between some schools but I'm not sure about the exit opps or career paths each offers, please help me out!! Got into so far: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Penn (not Wharton), Columbia, Duke, oh and yah, SUNY Binghamton.
What can I do with a degree from each of these places? One of my parents works in finance and he said at dinner the other night that I don't have to study business in undergrad to still do banking, does anyone know more about this? I don't know what I wanna do as a career yet!! My counselor at school told me finance is hard work but lots of money but I have no problem working crazy hours, I slept 4 hours a night the past three years since I captained our speech team, took every AP my school offers, and got penultimate honors for our year.
I don't know what to do, but anybody that can help me out, please give me advice!! I need to pick soon and the kids at school are making fun of me, somebody published a stupid article about me in a newspaper and everybody knows my options but I don't know how to choose!!"
Ok I meant the median is well below $600k
No I am just several years out of bschool and know that $600k is a lot of money and not as easy to get to on a sustainable basis as many on this site seem to think
No offense to SUNY but I hope this kid completely ignores the online poll for his sake haha.
Damn. Kudos to this lil mofo.
i cant stop staring at his head
Better question, how long before THIS kid gets on WSO? Actually, he doesn't even need to come here.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-21/yale-bound-hess-seeks-to-captu…
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