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Yes and DB > RBC. About to get so many MS from incoming RBC interns.
DB is a BB. RBC is a MM
Doesn't really operate in the MM space anymore. There are more people complaining about RBC analysts then there actually are on here.
lmao there is an army of RBC kids on this forum- have no idea where they all spawned from
What’s wrong with the forum lately? Not sure what RBC has to do with this other than a lot of DB guys jumping ship to there. Incoming interns at each place are fighting with each other. The BB or EB designation doesn’t mean much when you hit the desk. “Ranks” also tend to change often and it becomes a lot less meaningful outside an anxiety-filled college classroom. For all intents and the work I do, RBC works in the bulge bracket space and time will only tell if their foray into the US will pay off, so far it’s pretty damn good. Deutsche has hit a rough patch that probably has less to do with “how good they are” and more to do with the weak conditions in general for European and particular German banking.
Agree with the state of this site, and of college people here. The question is about dB. It was a very powerful house, a leader in some areas such das FX trading and string player in M&A (Europe), with strong teams in various areas. It however has hit a rough patch. How it will evolve, I think nobody knows. The bank has the strength of being close to many German multis , but in today's world companies have plenty of alternatives.
Tldr: I wouldn't consider "BB" as GS etc. right now. It was and still has sone strong assets and good rep.
I go to H/Y/P so no one is picking between these two often. But believe me, no one is picking DB over RBC in today's climate.
What do people usually pick between at H/Y/P?
They are probably trying to shop their RBC offer
Where do you go to school
How hard did they make it on you guys, sheeh! I'm not even trolling on the company data report shows they went 5 spots higher in the 'hardest interview' category since 2019 which still isn't even very high up there on the list. Btw I'm just saying this for everyone who missed it the "analyst 1" guy is the same person who has made multiple accounts and been on many threads talks the same exact way sole purpose is to bash RBC only and he made so many accounts that his posts and accounts were removed that should tell you this guy is pure trouble. There are still a lot of banks just kicking off their process now don't take it all out here man! I'd tell ya to get some sunshine but you can't really do that either atm. Sucks!
If you read that GHL thread, you'd know I work at one of the three EBs. My failure to work at RBC makes me feel terrible everyday and it's now too late for me to work there. Sad how you compare hardest interviews by year to make yourself feel good
Any market outside North America: DB >>>>>> RBC
Not a BB
Thanks Intern! Very insightful
Love the interns adding value to this site
I've researched the banks thoroughly, even prior to getting into IB and I will give you my outlook, which is about as valuable as that of the common research assistant... Deutsche Bank is still a bulge bracket with regards to its expansive size and top notch authority in Germany, however, its position within its home market has given it a lot of troubles. Europe is in for a big slowdown in the coming months, if it hasn't been initiated already... That being said, it is not on the level that its European/British friends Barclays and Credit Suisse are at anymore. UBS is a similar scenario, albeit a bit better. Overall to answer your question, the short answer is 'not anymore.' To elaborate further, the bank is barely profitable, it has suffered many scandals and does not garnish the same level of respect it once had.
its an investment bank not a tilapia
In my eyes to be classified as a BB, it must be a FULL SERVICE IB. (I.e. it must have an IB, SnT, Research, and AM). DB sold majority of its SnT arm I believe to BNP Paribas. So because it's not a full service bank, I think it's not a BB.
Sorry bud, but that is completely wrong. They sold their prime brokerage and exited from equity trading. DB FICC is still going strong though!
fight interns fight
Yes.
This thread is about to be a shit show
who cares?
DB is bigger in size and collects more IB fees, and is consistently higher in the league tables than RBC, u should only go with RBC if its really fun for you to roast DB on these forums
DB/RBC > UBS/Wells
If you look at the league tables, it’s more like UBS / Wells > DB / RBC.
DB/RBC > UBS/Wells
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