DISCLAIMER: Have no connection to either firm. Simply want to add more fuel to the fire and watch the interns go at it as I sit here bored out of my mind on day 67 of quarantine. Perhaps some DB and UBS interns can jump in and make things a bit more interesting? Thoughts overall?
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I work at CS. Can we please not do another one of these threads. No one cares
The problem with these ranking threads is that they're 90% just arguing over minute differences in rankings. If you want a real ranking here it is:
1: GS, MS, JP, EBs
2: PWP, Citi, Barclays, Gugg, RBC, DB, CS, BAML
3: All other banks
Getting any more granular than this is pointless, the differences in experiences between the banks in each tier are not meaningful enough to wine all day on WSO about.
nomura should be on there - would choose over GS
drop rbc/db chief
Agreed, dropping RBC and adding Greenhill 1: GS, MS, JP, Evercore, PJT, Lazard, Moelis, Centerview 2: PWP, BAML, Guggenheim, Barclays, CS, Greenhill, Citi, DB 3: All other banks
Not connected w any of the 4 either, but I've heard CS M&A / Sponsors place pretty well into UMM. I've heard a few UBS / DB as well (I'm assuming these ppl are the top of their analyst class), but I haven't seen much RBC. Maybe that will change in 2020 and beyond who knows
FSG places well into UMM? Try MF
Well, this will be civil
Is CS decreasing its focus on advisory compared to US BB/Barclays/RBC? Yes
Are they still extremely strong and will continue to be so in a number of areas? Also yes
If someone wants to go to PE after 2 years CS is still the easy choice. If they want to be at the same bank for 15-20 years, maybe the answer is RBC now.
Not sure why the MS. Guy is right
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CS Sponsors still very top right? Otherwise especially with a recession RBC is probably safer I think
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