Reaching out to MDs instead of Analysts. More efficient?

Wouldn't this be more efficient. Instead of reaching out to everyone in between. Analysts and MDs are probably the best to. I've gotten the feeling that MDs are more responsive to emails.

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Target MDs and VPs. Both tend to have some sort of hiring responsibility.

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I've had the most success directly e-mailing MDs and other senior-level people. I've found the guys who will talk to you will either take the call themselves, or toss you over to an analyst. Those who won't talk just don't respond at all.

 

My understanding is that it's best to talk to lower ranking alumni like analysts and associates first, then the more senior people just to make sure you've worked out the kinks in your story and have a stronger grasp on technicals. Then again, you should be strong with this stuff before talking to anyone. I guess if you only have alumni that are MDs, then you just talk to them.

 

From my experience, for target/core school recruiting, its obviously whoever who is actually on the recruiting team that has the most pull. A lot of these people tend to be on the Analyst to Associate level. I have found that senior level people (especially MDs) seem pretty far removed from the first round interview selection process and only get involved at the super day/final rounds. I also think its hard to build a really strong connection with an MD to the point that they would actively go bat for you if they aren't that involved with recruiting.

I would also reference this thread: //www.wallstreetoasis.com/blog/students-network-with-associates-and-vps-n…

 

When I was networking I'd aim for VP and above. If I wanted to get a feel of the firm I'd hit up alumni analyst/associates that I knew. I found everyone to be pretty helpful, but VP and above are ideal for off cycle recruiting or getting additional contacts. Junior people are best for OCR.

 

Both. It's a numbers game. MDs in my experience have the clout. They can literally set you up for an interview the next day if there is a spot open even if on another team, and a good word from one can count for a lot. Maybe stuff had changed but that's been my observation.

Good luck

I used to do Asia-Pacific PE (kind of like FoF). Now I do something else but happy to try and answer questions on that stuff.
 

Definitely better if you can get someone senior to come in and bat for you. But if that person is unlikely to be invested in you, from an emotional or commercial/pragmatic standpoint then their value to you may be limited in the hiring process. You may not be able to leverage these connections other than for use in name dropping to create an impression of your networking savvy and initiative.

 

I would email the MD. There is no reason to email the associate first. You will have to go through the MD at some point anyways (if it's not a megafund with 400 employees). If he likes you, you start the formal process on strong footing. If he doesn't reply, then email the associate -- the MD will never remember or was probably too busy to read. If you email the associate first, all you get is maybe an interview (which you could get through the MD anyways) but little credibility beyond that, and it'll be hard to get the MD to back you if you fuck up after that point.

I've always emailed the most senior people possible (short of C-level) and it has worked out for me.

Just reread the original post: Definitely the MD. The associate won't give a shit that you spent three months at the same school he did; it's a laughable forced attempt. Connection is much stronger with MD.

 

If you're trying to get an internship, it's probably not going to help you to email the juniors because they don't make those decisions or influence hiring decisions. If all you want is the SA then go for higher ups.

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