Reneging CS SA '23

Hey guys, as of now CS has not pulled incoming intern offers. I've started recruiting for some other firms like middle market investment banks. I was wondering 2 things. Should I accept another offer with another firm, even though CS hasn't canceled the internship? What if CS keeps my internship, should I renege the MM offer? Also should I be mentioning it to different firms that I'm incoming at CS but that the internship is up in the air, and leverage that to get offers?

 

Would 100% renege CS if you get another offer. No point taking the risk for a slightly better name on your resume

 

Would def renege on CS if I were you as it’s likely that either the internship is cancelled or shit return offer rates for FT or you get a return offers and then it is rescinded.

Best bet is to aim for a solid boutique / MM. that way, you at least have a guaranteed job as opposed to a “maybe job”

 

pretty shit advice because there are no solid IB SA 23 positions left

 

The whole point of doing an SA is to get a FT return offer as banks fill almost all their FT classes through the SA program. If you do an SA at CS, you won't get a return offer or, if you do, it will be rescinded anyways. Then you would have to recruit for FT in a recession / shitty job market where all banks are cutting. 

If the OP recruits for other banks and rescinds CS, at least, he/she will have a fair shot at a return offer and a guaranteed FT IB job (assuming solid performance). BTW, there are still some solid banks with 2023 SAs, not a lot but some. If OP was good enough for CS IB, he/she would have a solid chance for those other opps as well. 

 

I also agree that OP should renege on CS if you get another decent offer. Don't want to be on a sinking ship that will have like 0% FT conversion and then have to fight tooth and nail to get a FT job afterwards. I've had to recruit for FT before and trust me full time banking recruiting in a recession is a fking nightmare 

 

Apply to consulting, you have shot at MBB or tier 2 since recruiting hasn’t started yet, better than a nonexistent bank or potential for an MM

 

Sorry, I meant applying to MBB full-time in the Fall, much higher changes of landing MBB full time than IB full time in recession (speaking from experience, recruited both IB and MBB full time with a past BB internship with no return offer, and got two MBB offers and no FT BB offers)

 

Aut voluptatem id dolorum et molestiae omnis. Nulla odit quibusdam distinctio tempore. Ut et voluptates numquam aliquam qui veritatis ipsa. Magnam laudantium qui nihil nobis ut nesciunt.

Non quia sint similique perferendis quis et. Eum atque quo quasi molestiae. Illo amet neque omnis reprehenderit ea nisi ea in. Aut sed dicta hic quibusdam ea eum labore.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (87) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
3
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
4
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
5
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
6
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
7
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
8
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
9
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
10
Jamoldo's picture
Jamoldo
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”