What's so special about Moelis?
Curious to know what is so unique about Moelis that they are regarded so highly. They don't pay as high as CVP, they don't do as many large-cap deals as CVP or EVR, and exits are not as great as PJT RSSG for instance. Yet, at my target, plenty of people regard them highly and would take them (or took them) over an EVR or CVP. Not a shit post, really trying to get to know the firm
I hear they really punch above their weight.
great insight
Hard-hitting.
True
That's generally regarded to be a good thing
It’s a reference to Kaye’s punch.
Absolutely, their ready to fight if it comes down to it in a bake off.
Nothing "special" about a goddam bank. They just have a legacy very strong RX practice, that's all.
that would be PJT
I don't think any of the EBs have any unique specialties. At the end of the day, they will all provide you the same experience more or less. As for Moelis, I'd point to a couple of aspects: 1) While their comp is not the highest, it's still top of the street and I believe is in line with PJT and PWP and slightly higher than LAZ and EVR; 2) Exits are not as good as a PJT RSSG, but again you're comparing it to the most desirable IB analyst program. Moelis holds its own for UMM/MF exits vs any of the other EBs, including EVR or LAZ; 3) Lastly, and I think this is the truly differentiating factor of Moelis, it is their culture. Sure you hear that they are a sweatshop and that they will work you to the bone (which top EB won't?), but at least in my school plenty of people were attracted to Moelis because of their defined culture. You either like it or you hate it. A very hard-working, gritty, not-so-uptight or pretentious culture that characterizes some other EBs.
Congrats on Moelis! Know first hand bonuses weren’t great. Can’t make that much with those MM sell-sides.
moelis is hyped up on this forum because it’s the most inferior hardo bank. It’s where all the hardos land that couldn’t get. EVR PJT LAZ or CVP (since all these start at the same time or earlier)
I assume Moelis dinged you? LMAO, no one is taking Lazard over Moelis. Evercore is borderline. Agreed regarding Centerview, probably the best EB
lol this dudes super triggered
Can confirm not even Moelis analysts consider the bank better than CVP or EVR. Most would take CVP and EVR over Moelis in a heartbeat.
Edit: yeah seems like the culture can be pretty good for some people who are rather honest and not pretentious after seeing the Lazard comments.
I don't know about CVP, but I know a bunch of folks taking MOE over EVR. It's not that new of a trend to be frank, given what EVR turned into in the last couple of years (oversized, bureaucratic, and siloed. You may as well take GS over them at this point)
Evercore culture, for some people, is better. Moelis is better than Laz but worse than EVR and CVP nowadays; this is a general consensus.
No one in their right mind would take Moelis over EVR. What is the last 10+bn deal Moelis has advised?
They are the most non-target friendly EB
Dude, my former MD use to teach us how to win a street fight, that’s pretty special to me. Not to mention the founder Ken allocates 5% of fees to a boxing budget. Compared to CVP who donates 5% to politics, it’s a no brainer.
You sure about that?
Can confirm this, as just for having the same name as the founder I was put to the test with going 9 rounds against him and 4 of the partners at one time. Glad to say I held my own and my comp ended up being upper bucket that year.
Moelis’ MDs just hit different
Not sure who you're friends with but people would definitely not take Moelis over EVR or CVP...
congrats on EVR!
At some level the only thing that's special about any investment banking group (i.e. an energy coverage group) is which MDs companies/sponsors like the most. And that of course is generally tied to past performance of said banker. That's it.
They’re very hands on
Boxing lessons.
EVR I guess I can maybe kind of see given how much it’s grown + the political ethos of the place, but who the heck is taking Moelis vs. an actual Centerview offer (i.e., a signed piece of paper, not ‘I don’t feel like recruiting anymore so I’m bowing out of other places where I’m technically still alive including Centerview’)?
Great exits into street fighting!
Great firm, smart people, solid exits
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