BLM Protesting in Support of Chicago Loooters, NYC 50% YoY increase in murders, Courts/Police stations burned down in Portland

First WFH, now cities are crime ridden and homeless filled. The police are losing funding and not appreciated. The liberal leaders of these cities refuse to take a hard stance.

Are cities now dead? I can’t see any real reason to move into a city in the near future.

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Things will turn around. Humans are social creatures, once the pandemic is over and life begins to return to normal people will remember why they preferred cities in the first place. I’d never want to live in the middle of nowhere. It might take 10-15 years for things to really get back to how they were though. I do think the suburbs will benefit in the short to medium term.

You’ve gotta understand a lot of lower income neighborhoods are flirting with 30% or higher unemployment rates - it’s becoming a real a strain on the fabric of society. We would benefit greatly from a more cohesive national response to our current crisis.

 
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>You've gotta understand a lot of lower income neighborhoods are flirting with 30% or higher unemployment rates

Let me translate: You've gotta understand a lot of lower income neighborhoods have high unemployment rates, so they've got any right to burn and loot shops and rob your crackas' asses while being defended and assisted by anarcho-communists trying to destroy the Western civilization, funded by Chinese money wired through the Democratic Party, and praised by biased media whose only goal is to increase racial tensions.

 
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Cities aren't dead, they never will be. There have been fluctuations in the attractiveness of living downtown vs suburbs for a long time, this just happens to be the first time for most of our adult lives (when we actually choose where we live) that the burbs are starting to become more attractive than living downtown for a lot of the population (particularly affluent, well-off couples). My view is that we go through a 1-2 period of people debating living downtown and then we get back to the way things have been for a while.

Also, note that I live in Chicago and we've had a crime problem for YEARS but it's just getting a ton more coverage right now (and rightfully so).

 

This happened in the late 60's- early 70's, New York hollowed out, almost went bankrupt, was dirty and dangerous....David Dinkins did his best to finish it off....luckily Giuliani turned things around (whatever you think about him now, he was vital to NYC's recovery).

Bottom line - this took more than a decade to fix...and it was hard to do...now you have a mayor who tries with every waking breath to go back to how it was.

I hope you are all correct - and that things "goes back to normal", I just wouldn't "bank" on it. (sorry, this is WSO)

 

Yea, it could certainly take 3-5 years or longer but I don't think it's the same situation here as it was in the late 60s / early 70s. Although, you can argue that continued WFH removes the general need to live in NY / Chicago and crime or shutdowns remove the remaining reasons to live there.

Personally, i'm at the point in my life where I would be likely moving to the suburbs in the next 3-5 years anyway so i'm already on that path. I just think that it's soooo unlikely 22 - 30 years old single people are going to live in the burbs.

 

Maybe the rhetoric is a bit much on this OP but the general sentiment still stands. Even liberal leaders are calling these events in Chicago and Portland unacceptable (because they are). Lightfoot and Portland mayor both called out criminal activity. Jesse Jackson called the Chicago situation embarrassing. There’s a very real feeling that these mobs could cause the long term decline of these cities.

If you think it’s normal and okay for hundreds of people to show up in downtown Chicago and start looting shit just because they feel like it then i don’t know what to tell you. Ditto for a mob trying to burn down a police station with people inside it in Portland.

 

I don't think i've heard anybody call what's going on in Chicago normal; i've lived here for a while and it's a first for me. I do think it will drive people out of downtown in the short-term but I don't think this turns into total anarchy within the city and a collapse of Chicago. It's been around a while, it's still a great place to live and people will still want to live downtown.

I think it's good that Lightfoot is getting a bit more pissed off now. I understand why this is happening, while still fully believing that all of this is wrong. It's at the point where Chicago's leadership needs to step up.

 

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