I had a similar toned post about Obama's State of the Union. I think it's time for people to switch grounds from one loser to three losers at once (the mobster, the fakester, and the bankster)...the doctor was alright like always.
These debates just reveal to me how bad these candidates are and how little they know or care about America.
Paul > Romney > Gingrich > Santorum
My thoughts exactly...although i might move Gingrich to last since i know that everything he says is fake and he can change in any moment.
No one could have watched that debate and thought that Ron Paul shouldn't be the next President without being a communist.
I'm voting for Gingrich, he has balls.
GIngrich got smacked around last night..it was pretty funny seeing agree with Ron Paul so many times.
More than anything now, I just want to see Santorum drop out.
I can't listen to the dude's voice...really annoying...Paul has an annoying voice too, but at least he got substance.
Where in the world did we come up with 4 losers as candidates? I am sure the GOP can do better than this. Ron Paul keeps being the clown and making everyone laugh. Nothing wrong with that, but when you are talking about serious issues and want to be taken as a serious candidate, then stock cracking jokes in every answer you give.
Gingrich got a big slap from Romney and Santorum, but he won't win based on his past and empty, unrealistic promises. Romney, finally, grew some balls and threw some punches. Still, don't think he stands a chance against Obama. Santorum did the best out of the four last night, but he does not have the support he needs to win.
Obama for four more years.
Where in the world did we come up with 4 losers as candidates? I am sure the GOP can do better than this. Ron Paul keeps being the clown and making everyone laugh. Nothing wrong with that, but when you are talking about serious issues and want to be taken as a serious candidate, then stock cracking jokes in every answer you give.
Gingrich got a big slap from Romney and Santorum, but he won't win based on his past and empty, unrealistic promises. Romney, finally, grew some balls and threw some punches. Still, don't think he stands a chance against Obama. Santorum did the best out of the four last night, but he does not have the support he needs to win.
Obama for four more years.
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It's disappointing that the GOP couldn't come up with a viable answer to Obama, but I can't say it matters much now. Obama will be a lame duck throughout his second term.
Obamacare could still be repealed if enough R's get elected into congress. That and a few tax reform changes are the only substantive difference between a Romney and Obama administration. I am still holding out hope for a transformational candidate in 2016, though I have no clue who it would be.
I caught a few snippets of the debate, but it sounded like more of the same posturing. Paul is the only candidate who I think would actually stand behind his statements if elected. However, I was surprised that Gingrich didn't push the immigration issue harder. With Florida's demographics, it seemed like an obvious move...he could be looking beyond this primary, and trying to avoid alienating the rest of the conservative base.
Anyone here realize that Romney has lately been using newt's inane accusations to his advantage. The way he answered the immigration charge was pretty damn good.
How people say Romney is a loser candidate is beyond me. Guy donates 10% of his income to charity, every year. Faithful to his wife and a father. Republican governor or an important state and a liberal blue state. Turned around the Olympics which is a feat. Successful business man for years. Well educated. Very pragmatic.
How is Romney a shitty candidate? He has experience in every venue, good morals, seems like a nice guy. He is rich and donates money religiously. What is the issue. Shit. He seems like the IDEAL candidate to me.
ANT, I agree with you 100%. I actually think as a package, Romney is the strongest republican candidate since Reagan. He does not have his charisma, for sure, but his intellect, experience, discipline, family, make him a very strong general election candidate. Romney's weaknesses, mostly that he can't relate to the average joe, can be improved over time with practice. The fact that so many conservatives dismiss Romney just shows the extent of their irrationality. I laugh my ass off when I hear a conservative say with a straight face that Newt has a better chance of beating Obama than Romney.
Prediction: if Romney beats Obama, conservatives will ADORE him. And a decade from now, he will be compared to Reagan as a great president.
I don't think Romney is a bad guy, but I think conservatives, especially social conservatives, have some serious questions about the guy. He has moved around a bit on some of the issues and I don't think that sits well with people that want someone as socially conservative as Santorum. I don't judge Romney harshly because these are serious issues and I actually appreciate someone who changes their mind from time to time based on newly discovered evidence or beliefs. This is why I give Newt a pass on the ex-wife stuff, because everyone makes mistakes and people can change.
I do think some people are a little disillusioned at how badly Romney could beat Obama...I think it's going to be a close race and it's going to come down to Obama's ability to get his base to come out and vote. I think the independents are going to be pretty split down the middle regardless of which Republican candidate is chosen. If Obama can stir up his base and get them to come out and punch the ticket, he will win...but I suspect that isn't likely to happen this time around and it's very likely he will be defeated by either Gingrich or Romney.
I think we are all partly biased to some degree so it's important to keep that in mind. I know some people who don't like the idea of voting for a Republican so they are going to stick with Obama...despite what some might call a horrible first term. I know others that are more on the fence and would consider voting for a Republican if they thought he was a good candidate. I'm sure some will and I'm sure others won't. Just look at some of the comments you see here on WSO, by educated voters...many think there isn't an ounce of difference between Romney and Obama...so why would they vote for Romney and give him a chance to be in office for 8 years instead of keep Obama for another 4 and hoping a more appropriate superstar candidate comes along?
Regards
Social conservatives can keep dreaming of Santorum or Huckabee or whatever tard they think will bring things back to the days or repression and misery.
Romney is the only one who has a chance of getting elected. He might not be the dream of conservatives, but he is better than Obama.
I'd vote for Romney over Newt and Santorum any day of the week. (That's not really a good thing though)
No, no, no.
If you're truly fiscally conservative, you're against the Fed and government control of monetary policy. You want to see federal departments ended and power returned to the states, government spending eviscerated, the federal budget chopped into a fraction of its current size, and I won't even get into the gold standard. So, in other words, Romney is not your guy. A good person, highly successful in the private sector, and other laudable qualities...but he's just not your guy. IF you're a true fiscal conservative, that is.
Finally some logic in this thread. This whole idea that Romney is a conservative totally baffles me, he is a center to center left guy who happens to be running as a conservative now. To compare him to Reagan is totally laughable.
I love Reagan, but you realize that federal spending exploded under his watch and that he gave amnesty to illegal immigrants? He was still a conservative, but not every policy he enacted was "conservative" due to various political constraints. I believe that Romney is a pragmatic center-of-right businessman. That is certainly vastly superior to our current president.
I just wish Mitch Daniels hadn't dropped out... :(
His SOTU response was impressive.
It does not matter if someone is conservative, liberal, libertarian, democrat, communist or whatever label they want to give themselves to run on a platform. Who cares what someone claims to be. Politicians choose to be labeled as whatever they feel will give them the best platform. I don't know why people get so caught up in something so useless.
The only thing these guys should be talking about is our debt problem, our government spending, foreign policy, unemployment and getting people to work, student loan bubbles, income taxes.... Things that actually matter. These damn social problems need to take a back-seat to the pressing issues at hand.
Each of these men are all apart of the problem. Newt has been in congress for 40 something years. All these guys are are politicians. Look at what they have done while being in office and you will realize that it doesn't matter one bit what they say, its what they have done that is indicative of what is in store for our future.
Our generation (18-30) need to rise up and get each and every one of these politicians in office out and start to rectify all the ignorance, irrational, and downright stupid decisions that our parents/grandparents generation have done to screw this country. Until we get someone who truly represents the people, things will carry on the way they have the past 30-40 years and we will languish in a state of mediocrity for decades to come until we address the REAL issues that are plaguing our country and its people
Exactly. That's why I write-in souljaboytellem when I vote, whether he's running or not.
Completely agree, but we already have that candidate.
Ron Paul?
I'm a huge Ron Paul supporter, in case you couldn't tell. After watching last nights debate, I'm a little uneasy that he had to resort to jokes every time he spoke, which to me sounds like an admission of defeat.
Even though I agree with RP's platform, he is still too old and doesn't, in my opinion, exhibit the charisma and leadership skills necessary to lead our country out of this mess. What we have in our country is a broken generation of people that were raised on fairy-tales of the American Dream and entitlements that just do not, and should not exist anymore. Until we address the root problem, which is the American people and the current systemic of economic incentives, we will not progress as a nation. Rooting for a politician to change the trajectory of our country is tantamount to trying to rearrange the deck chairs of the Titanic, that inevitable iceberg is still on the horizon
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