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I wonder if people are actually considering what this shows.

Computers control the world. Not in a skynet terminator scenario, but EVERYTHING you depend on is managed by a computer, from your power systems to your phone lines to your defence networks and your bank accounts.

Now imagine if someone else got control of those.

These people doing this hacking, are young. no doubt about it. Imagine what they could do after 5-10 more years of experience and training, or what even those that have been doing this for a period of time. Your dependence on the systems you created, is protected solely by the people that put the protection on, i.e. the computer security companies. Check out their base salaries + bonus. You think that attracts the best people? Now how safe do you feel.

I support these groups, not just for the message they carry, but they will show the western world how vulnerable they are before a militaristic state does it for them.

 
trazer985I wonder if people are actually considering what this shows.

Computers control the world. Not in a skynet terminator scenario, but EVERYTHING you depend on is managed by a computer, from your power systems to your phone lines to your defence networks and your bank accounts.

Now imagine if someone else got control of those.

These people doing this hacking, are young. no doubt about it. Imagine what they could do after 5-10 more years of experience and training, or what even those that have been doing this for a period of time. Your dependence on the systems you created, is protected solely by the people that put the protection on, i.e. the computer security companies. Check out their base salaries + bonus. You think that attracts the best people? Now how safe do you feel.

I support these groups, not just for the message they carry, but they will show the western world how vulnerable they are before a militaristic state does it for them.

I grew up on internet forums that were populated by the sort of guys who were comparable to these guys, though at an earlier time. Many of them were similarly immature, and with the 6 years since I originally started going on those sites, I can give a progress report. Of the guys who I started talking to on a regular basis, one is extremely successful, having been kicked out of high school at 16, not having his own company, ~90k revs this year and a couple of part time employees. He is the exception. Another, who was also forcibly removed from his high school, spent several years wandering around most of the continent and was the last I heard in prison for being found having crashed a car after being high on heroine. He makes a bunch of money as a sales rep for a software company. Another guy tried/didnt enlist in the air force, and now is a failure. One is a law student, and a moron. Hell probably be one of the many that is forced to go in to shitty legal contracting, which I feel for. There are several more mid 30-40 year old guys w/ varying levels of professionalism, but in general they either mellow out or burn out. Most have little in the ways of computer skills now, and were just drawn in by very simple/easy to install programs like Back Orifice. These people are antisocial fruits. They write rubbish like this:

http://www.cultdeadcow.com/cDc_files/cDc-0213.html

They are generally not a threat, their patience doesn't allow them the ability to be.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 
lxwarr30Go to @LulzSec on twitter. He said these are false claims. Then he retweeted a comment by Anon saying this was false as well.
So the execs at the record company faked the whole East Coast / West Coast rivalry just to drum up record sales? No waaaaaayyyyy
trazer985...they will show the western world how vulnerable they are before a militaristic state does it for them.
yes, if some punk in his parent's basement can do this, what's to stop a fully funded and trained attack group?
Get busy living
 
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lxwarr30Go to @LulzSec on twitter. He said these are false claims. Then he retweeted a comment by Anon saying this was false as well.
So the execs at the record company faked the whole East Coast / West Coast rivalry just to drum up record sales? No waaaaaayyyyy
trazer985...they will show the western world how vulnerable they are before a militaristic state does it for them.
yes, if some punk in his parent's basement can do this, what's to stop a fully funded and trained attack group?

Lulz uses brute force DDoS attacks, exploits security loopholes left open by novice web developers and uses the carelessness of employees related to sites (ie, they find a pw through the DDoS attack, and that pw is reused for every account that person has) to facilitate their attacks. These guys "broke into" the CIA and Senate websites, but were only able to get into the public side of both sites. They weren't able to recover any proprietary or sensitive info.

Anonymous uses all these techniques as well as they're the easiest thing for a "hacker" to use to break in to a site, but are far more sophisticated than lulz. Their attacks have brought down networks with much more powerful security and they continue to do so on a consistent basis. It's not a matter of luck as it is with Lulz (ie, if their initial methods fail, they don't have the know-how or cerebral power to structure an alternative solution and give up thereafter. They release whatever it is they were able to accomplish and count it as a "tango down").

With some basic training, anyone can emulate what Lulz does. It's a matter of having the server power and coordination to launch these attacks. There's nothing intelligent about it. Anonymous is a different story.

 

I went onto the deep web once and from the hidden wiki I found some 'anonymous' website, I was reading through some insane manifesto when my DVD drive started making noise as if it was attempting to read something and then some text boxes popped up notifying me that a script was incoming, so I took the battery out of my laptop because my computer wasn't responding.

And that was my brush with Anonymous.

 
BarcadiaI went onto the deep web once and from the hidden wiki I found some 'anonymous' website, I was reading through some insane manifesto when my DVD drive started making noise as if it was attempting to read something and then some text boxes popped up notifying me that a script was incoming, so I took the battery out of my laptop because my computer wasn't responding.

And that was my brush with Anonymous.

lol!

 

I hate how people call these low level individuals "hackers". They just use servers to inundate servers with requests.

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment. -Styles P
 
seabirdsimple/easy to install programs like Back Orifice.
I'm not a computer guy, but this program was the source of endless pranks when I was going to school
eokpar02I hate how people call these low level individuals "hackers". They just use servers to inundate servers with requests.
You're right - bunch of script kiddies

If you want to start parsing out the terminology I believe the black hat hacker would technically be called a 'cracker' (no joke here) but these guys are calling themselves hacktivists.

Just like the average person doesn't have any clue what the difference between ECM or DCM is and only knows the term 'banker' - so it is with this type of thing: 'hacker' is the main stream catch all.

Get busy living
 

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