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Most disgusting congressional election in my lifetime hands down.
Well if it isn’t the Scarsdale stormtrooper!
How are you, DrexelBurnhamLamebert? Or whatever your pathetic ass goes by nowadays.
I’m not a Trump sycophant by any means, but I don’t really feel bad about Massie getting primaried. His opposition to OBBB and overall purist libertarianism make him a useful idiot of the left IMO.
Shills for Trump and his “OBBB” are why he didn’t win the primary. Wake up.
At least he isn't an Israeli sycophant.
Rumble is down the hall and to the left
I think I lean this way as well. Just because I agree with Politician X more than Trump (and I agree with most of the right more than Trump), doesn't mean that unity vs. the left isn't more important. It's pretty clear they want to dismantle everything from choice in healthcare, to the existence of borders, to rule of law in cities, to the supreme court, to concept of men & women, to free speech etc etc. Can't afford to let them back in just because we find Trump ridiculous, which we of course all do.
Yes great point, I'd much rather have AIPAC than them nasty dems...
what a joke
You are such an unrepentant dumbass.
This guy is the biggest Trump simp of the oasis
I will not be missing him.
Dude, anyone can take a photo with a public official at a campaign event. You think they scrutinize the X account of every person who shakes their hand? Trump has had photo ops with Kanye West and had dinner with Nick Fuentez yet he's the most pro-Israel President in living memory. C'mon now, common sense please.
Getting primaried for caring about the Epstein Files is unsurprising, yet still wild.
I wonder if he runs for president, and if he does, if he has any real shot at securing the Republican ticket.
He has my vote
Zero chance IMO
Unfortunately he lost the primary, but boy did he win. This election showed the absolute primacy that a foreign nation has over U.S. elections (not only in dollars contributed, but by legislative priority) and undoubtedly created 1,000 more Tom Massie’s. It should not take over $10MM for a congressional primary race… clearly this was an effort to shut up one of the few men in Congress that have the gall to represent his geographic constituents, and the entrenched systems within DC didn’t like that.
Massie for president in ‘28.
Edit: if you’re throwing MS at me please let me know your opinion, I am interested in hearing your position
Kind of incredible that your takeaway isn't "The GOP is just a cult devoted to Donald Trump" but rather "Jews!"
The absolutely insane cognitive dissonance exhibited by the American right never ceases to amaze me. Massie got primaried because he wanted to hold Mr Trump to his campaign promise to release the Epstein files, and yet for MAGA types, it's all the fault of Jewish people.
I would ask you to show me where I used any racial indication in my last post, because I didn’t nor did I imply it. My mentioning of a foreign nation only exists because that foreign nation’s super pacs (AIPAC & Co) contributed over $10 million to Massie’s competitor. They brought themselves into this election, it is well within my rights and frankly interests as an American to critique their involvement in my country’s political processes (and that goes for all nations and foreign groups globally, AIPAC is just the one that doesn’t have to register as such and because of that should receive more scrutiny, my $0.02)
I completely agree with you that this is in response to Massie going against Trump. He’s opposed a lot of what the Trump/his administration has put forward, especially when these things go against Trump’s original platform that he ran on. One of the few members of Congress who was willing to put his reputation on the line and vote with what was best for Americans vs best for Trump’s ego. We agree on why this happened, my original post was highlighting the concerns I see with how Massie’s competitor won
Bill Cassidy, Senator from Louisiana got primaried because he voted to impeach Trump after he attempted to overturn the election in 2020. Nothing to do with Jews or Israel.
Brad Raffesberger, Georgia Secretary of State got primaried because Trump told him to "find me votes" in 2020 and he said no. Nothing to do with Jews or Israel.
The takeaway has nothing to do with Jews or Israel. It's that hicks from Kentucky, Georgia, and Louisiana worship Trump like a golden god.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts here and I’d tend to agree with you (am from a rural part of the states) that a good portion of his voting base will follow him around doing whatever he says, not seeing the direct contradictions with his messaging now, compared to what he ran on. My original post was highlighting the “how” this happened; you and the poster above you nailed the “why”
Show me your friends, and I’ll show you who you are. I think Massie’s make abundantly clear who he is.
Good riddance.
Edit: Here’s a good read on the subject; https://www.wsj.com/opinion/free-expression/kentucky-fried-clown-2b7250…
It's Trump. That's all there is to it. As much as people would like to think that the Republican party is separate from Trump, it isn't. MAGA is the party. He did this in 2020, 2022, 2024, and now 2026. I'm not sure why you're shocked, this was a predictable event. If Trump turns his base on you as a non loyalist towing the party line, then you're just done for.
Why are people so worked up about Israel? We spend about $3 billion on them a year, which is a lot, but not even close to the biggest thing in our budget. We easily lose 5x that on welfare fraud like the Somali daycares alone.
In exchange, we're getting the alliance of the most sophisticated military and intelligence operation in the world. If they help us beat Iran, all of our Middle East problems will be over with. Who else will fight us? UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Israel are all US allies. The new Syrian president is a US ally. Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Oman, and Pakistan -- they're all US allies.
You guys are being ungrateful for how much Trump has done for national security. And don't forget he also gave us Venezuela. So if the Iranian blockade works, we'll have the majority of OPEC on our side, which will pay off big time against Russia to stop the war.
Please don't be retarded and see the bigger picture guys.
- The gulf war was started by false pretenses fed to the United States by the PM of Israel that saddam had “weapons of mass destruction” which has been found to be a farse. This cost us billions
This nation does not deserve our tax dollars (just like New Zealand, New Guinea, or Chile doesn’t)
Ur also leaving out the money that we provide to their neighbors to secure peace in the region. I don’t see where you’re coming from
You're overestimating Israel's role here. We started the 1990 Gulf War because we didn't want Saddam Hussein to take over Kuwait and be well-positioned against Saudi Arabia. This was the right move.
Even if you're right that Israel caused all our problems, that shouldn't solely determine how we address the Middle East today. We make decisions based current realities and risks, not by retrospectively blaming Israel. We have two choices at this point:
Which of these two is the better option?? It would be a bird-brained, retarded decision to go with 1 given the upside of 2. The IRGC is the last thorn in the Middle East, and we are this close to beating them. Trump is doing the right thing.
Complete nonsense to not state the influence absolute idiots like Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld had in these disasters.
HW Bush, James Baker, Scowcroft didn't take the bait in Gulf war 1. AIPAC and the Israeli lobby, plus the work of neocons like Pearl, Wolfowitz, and Douglas Feith would have gone nowhere if we didn't have room temperature IQ cowboy imbeciles like Rumsfeld and Cheney in charge.
HW Bush, James Baker, were establishment WASP types from legacied families. Cheney was western white trash, and Rumsfeld had a perpetual chip on his shoulder against anyone from an established Protestant background. It clouded their judgement, and they were the perfect plants for the neocons to use.
Blame should be appropriately placed in these two chief idiots for causing the quagmire that followed.
Well idk, killing 20K+ Palestinian children might bother normal people.
Doesn't seem to bother the people who lionize Hamas. Doesn't seem to bother most Republicans that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have died or been displaced....
This is an outdated figure from 2022. Just in 2025, we spent 12B on them in military aid. I'm not sure why you feel the need to bring up something completely unrelated to the topic at hand. You can be outraged over welfare fraud and Israel using our tax dollars on genocide. It's not mutually exclusive. It's a fallacy of an argument, to use "whatabout-ism"
Multiple internal sources from the CIA to the joint staff stated BEFORE the Iran invasion that Mossad was significantly overstating their capabilities in being able to depose the Iranian leadership. The US Military and internal information basically stated that the 4 main goals of Israel in the war were largely unachievable. They could, at most, achieve 2: Kill top leadership(Ali Khamenei mainly), and decimate Iran’s ability to threaten its neighbors (especially missile and regional proxy capabilities). The other 2, in popular uprising and regime change, the joint chief of staff meeting openly agreed it was completely absurd and would not be achievable. Rubio openly said Israel's plans were utter bullshit. You know how Trump responded? He said "Those other 2 objectives are their problem" hinting that he wanted to bomb Iran, and expected Israel to handle regime change.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war-takeaways.html
Full article on the piece.
Deposing Iran's leadership and a full regime change is absolutely absurd, out of the picture, 1 in a million type situation. In fact, all you've done is cornered a tiger. A tiger which still has some enriched uranium. A tiger which controls one of the most important water ways in the world. A tiger which can still do a fuck ton of damage, as we've seen.
How much Trump has done for national security? What, like shredding CIA and FBI management as a vendetta against political opponents? Hiring an alcoholic cheater who invites press into confidential chats about military strikes? Or how about his complete destruction of joint military operations with NATO and Pacific allies?
And he didn't get us Venezuela. Yes, it's more stable than before as Rubio has done a shockingly swell job keeping the new leadership there properly maintaining the status quo. But it won't be an oil producer for a very long time. The sour nature of Venezuelan oil combined with decades of infrastructure collapse can't just be fixed. Only a few refineries can actually handle Venezuelan oil. Most of the market much prefers sweet oil from the middle east.
And you're putting a ton of emphasis on the "if" of the "if the Iran blockade works" Iran has no reason to back down. Hormuz is their one lifeline, their one thing at the negotiating table. Blockading them does nothing. And how is OPEC doing? UAE just left, multiple nations breaking their quotas, and OPEC can't even meet in some OPEC nations because they're still considered a cartel and would be subject to arrest.
Big picture? What's the big picture here? Okay, let's try a few scenarios:
Iran and US come to some peace deal. This is the most likely. The US can't win, Iran can't win, they both can't fully capitulate the other, so they negotiate. Here's the problem: We've basically just told Iran that they are open to being bombed and hit by the US at any point. What do you think that does to leadership? It accelerates their resolve. Iran has spent every day since the Iranian revolution basically saying that the US and west is out to get them. It hadn't really come true, until this. Until the US actually struck them. It just confirmed the extremists in the internal government, and made the resolve amongst hardliners much stronger. What does that mean? They're going to be far far more aggressive in their acquisition of a WMD. Could be a nuclear bomb, could be as simple as sleeper agents placed in western nations with chemical weapons. They previously always had the US as a boogeyman, but because there was never any war, there were a lot in Iran that wanted some level of westernization and reform which held back full commitment to weapons to kill the west. Those reformers are basically gone now. The new regime in Iran is more hardline than any regime since Ruhollah Khomeini.
Other 2 scenarios are somehow the government of Iran just collapses, which is least likely, or boots on the ground, which would be worse than the Soviet-Afghanistan invasion. Iran is massive, mountainous, and well equipped. Imagine Vietnam but so much worse. Like Vietnam and Afghanistan combined. You don't win that. And even if you do manage to replace the old regime, you have to then suppress the partisans, in mountains and deserts. Good luck on that.
I mean seriously, do you understand nothing about geopolitics? Or even like, geography/topology?
When did I say anything about boots on the ground or regime change? The objective you mentioned, "decimate Iran’s ability to threaten its neighbors (especially missile and regional proxy capabilities" is exactly what I'm referring to. Why would you need a regime change if the country is not a threat anymore?
We did something similar in Venezuela, where the "regime" is still in place but won't antagonize the US.
Like I said, 2 options: 1) back off and let Iran continue their behavior and possibly develop WMDs, or 2) utterly decimate their military capabilities. Option 2 is the only path where we have leverage to stop their aggression and keep the region safe.
Nothing was rigged. It was not AIPAC. Trump's base is a cult, and to them, disobeying Trump is worse than launching and losing wars in the Middle East, or raping kids with Epstein, or stealing billions in taxpayer money.
Proof:
Bill Cassidy, Senator from Louisiana got primaried because he voted to impeach Trump after he attempted to overturn the election in 2020. Nothing to do with Jews or Israel.
Brad Raffesberger, Georgia Secretary of State got primaried because Trump told him to "find me votes" in 2020 and he said no. Nothing to do with Jews or Israel.
Trump has full control of MAGA and Israel has at the very least, significant influence on Trump, so I think the associative property applies here. Not to mention AIPAC throwing millions behind his opponent. And even then the voting counts are pretty odd (2x normal counts).
Trump has let questionable and self-serving individuals get enormous amounts of power and influence as long as they kiss his ass enough. Netanyahu is just one of them.
I am not sure why the right leaning folks on here are acting surprised by this behavior, hell, he let the MyPillow guy play a significant role in his strategy to overturn the election last term.
Yup. America Last
Writing was on the wall the minute he pushed for accountability for the epstein files. Protecting pedophiles is a pretty key part of the GOP platform
He's a pro-Russia, anti-border protection RINO that consistently voted against his party. Of course he got primaried. Trump was shitting all over him on the way out. MAGA and the party did what everyone expected them to - blaming it on Israel is a low IQ take.
He voted 91% with Republicans, and only voted against Republicans on the Epstein files, aid to Israel, the war in Iran, and the big beautiful bill.
Craig this is straight up lies and propaganda. Are you also a dual loyalty "American"?
Now apparently being pro-Russia is bad? Trump's been glazing Russia for nearly a decade now and only stopped once he decided to switch back to being a neocon. MAGAs have no values besides cultish worship to Trump. Exhibit A: Tulsi Gabbard (and she still got stabbed in the back anyways!)
Could Americans ever reclaim their country?
Seems that the future is a strong American-Jew identity instead of the American-WASP identity.
What percentage of the US population do you think WASPs make up?
few, but at least you knew that the WASPs that were in the Government were fully aligned on American interests and those took priority
now it's unclear to what extent American interests are put first, to the the point that it's a security discussion on whether any non-WASP should be in a position of power to being with (just see the Asian mayor, idem for people with double citizenship or form immigrant parents, which should be unconceivable for someone that serves a country or broader speaking for a country that wants to prevent any information leakage to "allies" outside the country for matters related to internal policy, or risk foreign information flow directly through key people without much oversight).
the only argument for tolerating this is that the country is an economic machine and has no social or cultural anchor
Yes I think unfortunately many otherwise good people are compromised and need to be removed from office / positions of power. We need to actually be America first. The tail cannot be allowed to wag the dog.
I already knew this since FT blocked comments on any news related to Israel.... the truth can't be spoken, it's offensive...
Birds of a feather…, @CoinEnjoyer .
An open, but wasp led America by the likes of Nelson Rockefeller or George HW Bush, would (and in the later case) was the absolute best america produced in many aspects. It was exclusionary though in ways many of you would recoil at today. Jewish/Chinese/Indian/Latino American? You wouldn't see an executive position no matter how hard you worked. While some weren't racist, others were some of the most intense segregationists that existed.
People look at that era with rose tinted glasses. The meritocratic revolution overthrow the mayflower class for a reason gents. Obviously that comes with a weaker/non existent national identity I suppose. Trade offs ultimately.
Tucker Carlson's entire grift is about mourning this WASP class. "The biggest story is the utter replacement of the ruling class of this country over the past 40 years". I heard that, and I immediately knew what his entire grievance with Israel was about right away.
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