It's been a big debate since last year what elite college demographics would look like post SCOTUS ruling to make AA illegal in higher ed. MIT is the first of these colleges to release demo info and it seems the ruling was a great success given the new class demographics (i.e. fewer Asian people being screwed for being born into the wrong race). The info is as follows for class of 2028:
Asian -- 47% (vs. 40% in class of 2027)
White -- 37% (vs. 38% in class of 2027)
Black -- 5% (vs. 15% in class of 2027)
Hispanic -- 11% (vs. 16% in class of 2027)
This is the big step in incrementally moving towards greater meritocracy. I'm sure MIT still put their thumb on the scale a bit, but some progress is better than no progress. What this also means is now that MIT appears to have complied with the ruling, other elite colleges that do NOT show significant demographic moves (looking at you Harvard) are now opening themselves up to massive legal liability now that there's a clear comp (though we also have comps in CA and a few other areas as well). Let's see what Harvard / Yale / Princeton / UPenn / etc class demographics look like, this is being watched very closely
See links here --
Licking my chops waiting for Harvard, esp given that smart comment they had to make last year about pretending to comply haha
No doubt they're waiting as long as possible before releasing it to prepare their legal defense IMO
The 2027 numbers add to more than 100%
Some people identify as more than one race or ethnicity.
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The funny thing is how 80% of companies are completely ignoring these rulings and demoting merit to make way for more DEI programs. But this is all dependent on the pipeline ultimately, if college classes are more meritocratic then companies will have little choice but to select from what they have available (i.e. students that actually earned their way in). So in 4yrs as the entire college class refreshes itself as a post-AA cohort (class of 2028-2031) the DEI programs are essentially running up against a constraint they can't do much about and will naturally die off
Only option for these companies is deliberately going outside the Top 30 schools for talent, but that's taking a HUGE risk in terms of making one's company less competitive moving forward. The delta matters more today vs. 20yrs ago because it's well documented kids are getting less intelligent overall as measured by ACT / SAT scores...a big function of social media. So the gap between the avg kid at MIT vs. avg kid at Rutgers is going to be wider today than in the past, which makes it even harder to justify going to these schools in a desperate attempt to keep DEI programs alive
I also wouldn't be surprised if there were more lawsuits about DEI in the workplace following SCOTUS ruling on AA in higher ed
Spot on -- these programs will be rendered more and more toothless over the next decade purely by the available pool available
The libs will whine (see below on Ozy, CRE) but the die is cast
*Us laughing to ourselves and telling jokes about the nonstop mediocrity on this message board crying about DEI in near-daily threads*
“See! The libs are crying! We’re winning!” -You
My man, none of us get wrapped around the axel about this shit like you do.
Amazing how as a 40yr old man you're still so committed to posting on a site with folks in their 20s. Ever thought about spending time with your kids? Unless your wife's bull is handling that for you of course in which case -- knowing your post history -- it checks out
Lol. How the hell is anyone going to prove standing to sue any of these schools?
I mean, Jesus tapdancing Christ, do you people not have a brain?
They would be able to think more clearly if they went to an Ivy League school, as is their God-given right.
But an undeserving Black man took their specific spot instead!
What do you mean? Asians representing 40% of the of 2027 class at MIT is clearly discrimination. The views on this topic have been distorted and I would expect more alt accounts to comment.
Lol. Yep, just give it a few years and then we'll be hearing all about how it's unfair that Asians get accepted at such high rates and that other things should count besides GPA
Proving standing is the easy part. All you have to do is apply and get rejected. Making your case is the hard part, given how random admissions decisions are.
You shouldn’t comment on legal matters if all you know is finance and liberal talking points.
Ozy is the class clown of WSO, would ignore anything he says as it lacks basic logic
Unfortunately for you, I know a fair sight more than you do. Which isn't surprising - after all, conservatives are masters of knowing nothing but insisting they're right despite that. College applicants have been denied standing in a number of cases related to admissions. I know you don't understand this, but for the wider group of WSO users - standing is not defined as "I say I was harmed". You need to show material harm that was caused by the specific actions of the potential defendant.
In this case, what possible harm is being alleged? Simply being rejected from a school is not grounds to sue. Even with more justification it's exceptionally difficult to prove standing, e.g. Bendis et al vs Singer.
I don't know a ton about finance. But I do know a little about a bunch of things - the difference between me and you is that I actually KNOW things, I don't just talk out my ass and pretend.
Bit of an apples to oranges comparison since the previous numbers included all racial identities of students and added up to well over 100%. Yes the numbers decreased but this is them exaggerating things to make a point
This topic is one of the worst I have seen on WSO. Not only has it been corrupted by phony accounts but the refenced data is not even correct. As others have pointed out, the 2027 numbers add up to well over 100%, the stats on latinos, blacks, and whites do not match the data in the article. There is not even any data in the article to show that asian's went from 40% to 47%.
Are you a fool? The reason they don't add up to 100% is because people identify as multiple races -- you can google it yourself if you don't believe me
Secondly, I posted a 2nd link with more demographic info since you clearly seem incapable of doing basic googling. If you think I'm lying on any figures above, feel free to try and prove me wrong
Hilarious how you're whining so much because people aren't showing you love. Instead of looking for it from internet strangers, why don't you try to get it from your son? Oh wait, forgot that he hates you as per your own words some time back. Everything checks out
LMAO. 2028 percentages add up to 100% but 2027 percentages are well higher than 100%. I would suggest you check your post before posting. The second link is an edit to the post but nice try. You posted statistics and expected people to do the work for you? I am not the guy posting a topic to get rewarded with bananas. That person is you. Posting a topic that is pro Asian has to to be the easiest way to to rewarded on WSO. Everyone should realize by now that Asians are a very high percentage of users on WSO
I took a look at the demographics across top universities prior to the ruling and determined that MIT and Caltech were the least guilty of AA based admissions decisions. As such, I don't think this YoY change really reflects any difference in their practice from before. It will be really interesting to see how the demographics of H/Y/P/S change post-ruling.
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