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Private school kids end up sheltered and unable to socialize and relate to most people, not to mention they tend to look down on everyone else. Any benefit from better education is outweighed by the lack of social development which will hurt them more in the long run
I was talking on the phone about this with another WSO user. She said she wanted her future kids to go to public high school and not Catholic high school, as "private or Catholic school isn't the real world." Then the future kid must go to an Ivy. Quite the path.
As someone who went to both public and private, it’s much more important to have well rounded, real life experiences, good tutors, and the knowledge of how to best market them to colleges compared to just the last two at a private school (many of them admitted they only had a conversation with less than 10 black people). I saw tons of private school kids that were set up with all the opportunities they could’ve asked for but floundered immediately in college, and I know plenty of public school kids that either succeeded in part because of their parents knowledge, or didn’t succeed due to a lack of knowledge/connections/money. None of this is black and white of course, but my point essentially boils down to two things:
1. Will they be set up for a good social life and have a general understanding of the world/their peers?
2. Your network (and understanding of how the game is played) is massively important, as repeated frequently on here. Yes, you might get a network from the private high school, but your college network is likely going to be much more focused on the industry you’re interested in.
I attended an international school in and thought it was a great experience. It seems like many students here want to send their future kids to private school. What are the US private schools like specifically in new york?
Can anyone from the top public schools like stuy comment on their experiences? Would you prefer your kids to go to schools like that or private schools?
Depends on whether my district has awesome public schools.
Ideally, if money is not an object, would love to send them to Philips Andover or Exeter.
Whichever is ranked 1st in the country I’m in, budget is of no concern. My parents sacrificed everything to get me a good education, I’d be a selfish cunt to not give the same or better to my children.
In most situations, most likely private school, or a good magnet school but not the ones located in nyc
what's the perception of the magnet high schools in NYC? I'm not familiar, curious. I would imagine magnet high schools would be the best value pick, though they are usually competitive to get into. Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology used to be and I think still is ranked as the best public school in the country, and it is itself a magnet school.
"Sty" (Stuyvesant) is elite private school comparable They were in the NYC speech & debate circuit above all other schools. Only Bronx Sci. even was worth mentioning as an also-ran.
I understand why private schools would be more ideal for college preparation and placement, but I wonder if these highschools tend to select more students who come from families that already have legacy or connections to top colleges to boost their placement numbers.
Ex: a private HS in PA feeds heavily into UPenn - is it because the HS is strong or is it because the HS accepted many students who are children of local UPenn professors/faculty so these students have greater chances of getting accepted there due to that connection, rather than the actual strength of the HS itself? Meanwhile students of professors would likely be more academically oriented to begin with..
Could there be another group of students that consist of Baldwin III types with triple legacy to other top schools?
that's part of the reason why I think magnet schools could help to partially solve this. Many of them have admissions exams that people take private courses to prepare for though, there's a whole cottage industry, but I think it still probably discriminates less than private HSs conceivably could.
Thought the good private high schools had entrance exams and mainly accepted smart kids who may also have an edge in some capacity. I see how magnet schools select purely through merit and think those would be an ideal environment but only if class size was sub 150. Some places are too large, look at stuyvesant hs - it’s hyper competitive and oversaturated with overachievers. Each grade has 800-850 students. Below are there college placement figures:
https://tophscollege.blogspot.com/2021/09/stuyvesant-class-of-2019-matr…
They send ~10% of their class to ivies over the years, which is pretty good, but the bar to be near top 10% in that school must be so high compared to even good public schools that have similar college placement results
In Honolulu, HI, private schools Iolani or Punahou*
In San Francisco, Lowell (public) or some of the privates (best known is St Ignatius). If my daughter excels in art, there’s an art magnet school that’s public near my house.
*I attended one of those private schools in Hawaii - 25 years ago.
I’d say, the best lessons from high school are (which my high school did a great job):
Although I’d love for my kids to get into an Ivy, Berkeley, UW, UCLA undergrad, I’m the type that believes one can find their calling in work, focus, and later get a grad degree to polish off the educational part of the resume. So, high school really to me is understanding the value of effort (to beat raw talent), perseverance, and making great friends.
My kids are several years away from high school, but that’s what I’d look for, in addition to good academics and location relative to my house.
I would opt for private school for high school, but I think going to a public school earlier on helps students interact with more folk from varying background which can be helpful for social development
TLDR at bottom
I was in private education my whole life until I got to college and transferred between extremely large state schools.
Without question, I would send my children to private schools as well. I started out in a Catholic Pre-K through 8th school, and I felt it did a good job instilling general morals and foundation of my faith (which I find incredibly important now, didn't really appreciate it until my second year of college). There were some things I would change surrounding the faith formation, but the quality of education was pretty solid. The only thing I would really complain about was that it didn't have much to offer the especially bright kids of the class. In a class of 70, there were typically three classes with 20+ students: one advanced, one/two regular, and one/zero "SPED" if you will. They had 2 advanced math classes in 8th grade for kids to take Algebra I on time. In hindsight, I definitely think I got a good education from this school.
My high school is what I didn't appreciate enough in the moment. It was (imo) the best school in my city (one of the 25 largest in the US). Biggest issue with it w the lack of diversity, both racial and socioeconomic. $30k tuition limits the kind of people you're gonna meet lol. That being said, it does have a reasonably strong alumni network. There were lots of opportunities for bright kids to excel, especially with some online class thing we had. This let kids take random courses that the actual school teachers wouldn't teach (think like Roman history) or have things like Calc III that only 4ish kids were taking - not worth having a teacher spend all that effort just for them. They had a lot of random enrichment programs/activities for us and brought in a lot of speakers, though usually nobody paid attention during them because we just wanted to mess around in our free time. Sports and arts were mandatory for at least 3 years (minimum 2 seasons for sports) so I had the opportunity to be a leader in the athletics and got to be a little creative, albeit I was awful at art.
The high school gave us so much busy work, particularly in writing, taking notes, and synthesizing information that coming to college was honestly a walk in the park. Some teachers refused to give reviews for exams, so the onus was on the students to figure out what needed to be reviewed and how much time to allot for studying. The other thing that was nice is that we had a break between each class every day, and more often than not we had time to duck into a teacher's classroom and ask for help. Basically office hours lite.
My biggest complaint is that the college placements really haven't been that great since the 2010s roughly. Obviously college admissions has gotten obscenely competitive so private school isn't offering as much of an advantage anymore (except the obvious Andover/Exeter types), but it still didn't sit right with me that some parents paid $30k for 13 years (was a K-12 school) just for their kids to end up at a state school with a 90+% acceptance rate, especially since the same outcome would have been achievable with the local public schools. This places too much of an emphasis on what college the student attends, but it was something that I was frankly turned off by.
Circling back to my previous point, the work given to us was rigorous and taught us to think critically. Teachers wouldn't roll over and cough up the answers, and they did a good job guiding us toward figuring out the answer or pointing us in the right direction to figure things out on our own. What alarms we a lot nowadays is the prevalence of cheating through things like Chegg, ChatGPT, and CourseHero. Students are too lazy to sit down and figure things out themselves, so they choose the worst possible option and hinder themselves from truly learning. Private school helped instill that emphasis on doing things the right way and trying first to figure things out for myself.
I've done pretty well so far in college. Cross college GPA is about a 3.95, should be about 3.97 after this semester. I don't think for a second I would have done as well without the educational background I have. I can only hope my kids will have similar experiences to me.
TLDR:
From my experience, private education has given me a huge leg up on succeeding in college. Workload and extracurriculars forces you to find a balance. There are some qualms I have, but nothing is perfect. Highly recommend private education if you can afford it, and if you're on this site chronically enough to read this post, you probably are (going to be) making enough to afford it. Cheers.
Depends really
If my kids are smart / motivated, I’ll send them to private. If they’re a bunch of lazy dummies they’re going straight to public - no way I’d pay 60k/ year on private edu if they’d end up at a place like Rutgers college, when they could get the same result coming out of a normal hs that’s free
Many here prefer boarding school, and I am curious what are the key differences between boarding and a private school, aside from the boarding aspect. Wouldn’t you want to see your kids as they grow older?
I'm from NYC, so would think Xavier, Fordham, Regis, Loyola, Browning, Collegiate, Fieldston would be schools to target. Too many bad stories about Horace Mann(had 2 cousins go there), Trinity kids are not well adjusted.
No comments about Marymount? We loved the Marymount girls, and their dads loved us for not being more stuck-up WASPs. There were also the second-tier schools too, like DA (Dominican in the East 90s)
To answer the original question, I'd happily send my son to my alma matter despite being mostly atheist (That'd require work getting back into a parish) I feel it was the most diverse elite school in the world, where a kid on food stamps would take classes next to one who had a Cezanne in his parlor.
My worst mistake was not applying to Regis in middle school imo.
Competition was tough anyways, wouldn’t have gotten in even with connects
Boarding school most likely
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Private - the Teacher's Union is horrible for both teachers and students/ parents. There are a few very reputable public schools in my area, but they end up costing roughly the same as private anyways. For my $, I like having the choice.
I have heard public edu is usually not ideal in most areas outside of a few pockets scattered across the country. I have no idea why anyone would want to send their kids to be taught by unqualified teachers. Why do teachers have a union for?
It's a great question as to why, but they're way too large and powerful now. I wouldn't say that the teachers are unqualified, it's more so that the incentives aren't there.
Exceptional teachers aren't compensated any more than sub par ones. It creates a culture of doing the bare minimum, which trickles down to bright individuals entering the profession.
They're quickly ostracized for going above and beyond because it makes the more senior teachers look bad. Usually within the first couple years, the passion and drive to be exceptional is stamped out - rinse and repeat.
Anyone ever go to one of those not prestigious private day schools? The ones where the avg kid gets a 1100/1600 sat and goes to some rando college? I’m curious what these places are like and why students go to these rather than their local public school if in a decent area (non urban)
Full of dummies. Don’t bother, these schools get beat out by public school kids in college placement
I went to a top private school and I've also been to a not prestigious private school. The difference was night and day. I was pushed a lot more at the top school and developed more there. I was genuinely in shock of how easy the less prestigious school was.
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