Why is Steve Schwarzman still CEO

Guy is 77 years old and has been clipping $100M / yr at BX now for at least 7 years past his prime. Compensated as one of top 5 ceos this past year and for what? We all know other people are running the show for him. Why do shareholders allow this. How does society tolerate this.Jfc

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Because he's the founder, built the entire platform, and he wants to be. Not much more to it. This isn't like sports, guys older than Steve are still leading their firms in various capacities and still crushing it.

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who're you referring to?

Buffet's in his 90s and still one of the sharpest investors alive. There's also a small roster of other very senior founders/early employees at MF/UMM/MM funds who are worth 9-10 figs who are in similar positions after they built firms/investing arms of those funds for 30+ years. 

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I’m saying more along the lines of it is a philosophical indictment of a sick society that a $100M teet exists.

Lol it's a multi-billion dollar teet that he built, so, no. What is this commi philosophical bs you're referencing? Sounds like something a humanities professor would cry about while grading papers. 

And indicative of a personality flaw of Steve’s that he can’t give up the reigns.

He built it. He earned it. Everyone who works in this industry dreams of achieving a fraction of the same in the best possible world. No one on the planet would give up those reigns if they don't have to, no matter how much self-aggrandizing BS they post on social media about how unfair and unequal the world is. That's reality. 

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I’m saying more along the lines of it is a philosophical indictment of a sick society that a $100M teet exists. And indicative of a personality flaw of Steve’s that he can’t give up the reigns.

lol. I couldn’t get passed this comment. 
 

You might be looking for a different forum. 
 

 

So when will Baratta get the CEO position? Gray’s real estate business has run into several issues.

And BX is known as gold for PE. Yes, RE too but PE is top

 

Tough fundraising environment.

Also, why wouldn’t you appoint the head of PE to CEO instead of head of real estate? Especially considering it’s BX

 

It’s reasonable to assume that Gray has a greater chance given he is COO.

It’s also reasonable to see the job going to the head of PE at the greatest PE firm in the world.

With both having senior titles and being top of their game, I think it comes down to where the firm is headed and where there’s more opportunity/what is more profitable. At the moment and in the future, PE seems hotter than RE. It’s less of a Gray vs. Baratta talent war and more of an RE vs. PE business.

The RE business faces structural industry challenges whereas the PE business has lots of room for growth.

Also, despite the AUM numbers - BX gets its prestige from its PE powerhouse and the caliber of its people. That is irrefutable. Their best people come from the PE business hands down.

 

Counter to this is I think the puck for BX is heading toward being an administrator of assets vs a dynamic carry generating organization. They’re at $1T… Gray invented the BREIT retail investor piggy bank. Every fund can’t stop going on about next frontier of bringing in retail money into PE (including PC and REPE). Gray is the man for that job. Also Gray is in his own right a legend….LBOs of Hilton, and EOP, basically inventing the institutional single family rental business and IPOing that company, being early on logistics, $100b fee machine of BREIT. can’t discount this stuff just because he wasn’t buying a predatory healthcare late bill company or something…

 

1. Like I said, it is reasonable to assume that Gray could be the next CEO. Gray is talented and is already in the C suite. He has lots of facetime representing BX and a solid track record. But just because he is COO doesn’t necessarily mean that he is the successor. Heads of divisions (Baratta) that are the main focus of a firm get promoted to CEO all the time.

2. Similarly, it is also reasonable to assume that Baratta could be the next CEO. He is head of the main focus of the firm. The PE business is much more successful, has way more clout than RE, and it has much more opportunity for growth. And Gray’s RE business is struggling and faces structural issues.

3. The PE business is 1000x better/more respected than RE. This is a 100% fact.

3. Baratta does just a “decent job at PE?” You are clearly retarded and that is one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard on this site. Baratta is head of the best PE firm in the world. That doesn’t happen from just being decent. You are clearly too retarded to make a coherent argument. It is laughable that you claim to be a Principal in LBOs given you clearly lack capacity to make a solid argument. It is obvious that you are not in PE and all/many of the above accounts fall under one group/pathetic person.

 
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Lol, you know nothing.

Blackstone isn’t the best PE firm to anyone other than rising juniors at Stern. Thoma Bravo, Veritas, EQT, H&F, GTCR … long list of PE firms definitively better than Blackstone at PE.

I’d encourage you to open up a dictionary or maybe read investopedia. BXRE has seen some headwinds due to the interest rate environment, which is cyclical not structural. Even with those issues, the RE business generates 2x the earnings of the PE business. The portfolio is dramatically underweight office CRE and is massively exposed to logistics infrastructure. The PE business is fine. No better/worse than KKR/CD&R etc. It’s a serviceable large cap PE offering.

What Blackstone is the best at is being an alternative asset supermarket and having the best brand for institutional investors. That has less to do with PE and more to do with the fact that they’re the only large PE firm that has been able to build as big or bigger businesses outside of PE.

Im going to discontinue this debate after these (very obvious) points, because it’s a bit of a waste of time arguing with a college kiddo on WSO.

 
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